Off-duty officer shoots 2 in lot after Angels game, page 8

reply to post by thisguyrighthere

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Because the use of non-deadly force is beyond your comprehension or abilities?

It's easier to shoot someone than engage them in physical combat or better yet reasonable dialogue?

Or is it because you think everybody else has a gun and therefore you must have a gun and therefore guns are okay because every bugger has one?

C'mon which is it?

[edit on 25-6-2009 by mr-lizard]
Edit: typo

[edit on 25-6-2009 by mr-lizard]

reply to post by mr-lizard

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As I pointed out in a previous post regarding Mike Tyson yes, it is.

Next time some punk is stabbing you in the gut or hitting you in the head with a bat you go ahead and start a dialogue. Be sure to report back how it went.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere

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So why would a punk attack me?

Some of my good friends are punks? Why isolate one social group against others?

As far as i'm concerned punks are pretty decent people and have never been threatened by a bat or stabbed by anybody who is into punk music....

This thread is about a copper and NOT punk rockers.

[edit on 25-6-2009 by mr-lizard]

Originally posted by alyosha1981
reply to post by CX

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He(officer) was apparently hit in the head with an object, what was the object? they don't say was it a bullet? I think not.

Did you not read the article completely? It reads that he got cracked in the head with a bottle! R U serious?


This is self defense no matter which way you try to twist the facts.

Just look @ the facts, and in this case, anyone who attacks a man with a bottle to the dome, especially infront of his family, is subject for a justifed reaction, *ahem* even killing the person in self defense.

Keep in mind, that there were 2 men. If the victim was armed, chances are he would've been overpowered by these two, and the firearm would've been in the wrong hands, real fast.

I would imagine this also went through his mind before reacting.

Good for him. A good that no-one else got hurt.

On a side note, after that bottle breaks it's an even deadlier weapon than a knife......

This is why I cannot be a cop. I would've probably went for a head shot if anyone decided to crack me in the head with a bottle infront of my kids @ a ball game.....

I don't wish death upon anyone, not even these 2 men, and hope for their survival. Let it be a lesson learned though.




[edit on 25-6-2009 by Ben Niceknowinya]

Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by thisguyrighthere

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So why would a punk attack me?

Some of my good friends are punks? Why isolate one social group against others?

That's just stupid semantics further complicated by you being in the UK and me being American. Dont nit-pick the semantics.

reply to post by mr-lizard

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For crying out loud nobody went on about "punk-rockers"

From Merriam Webster

punk
2  /pʌŋk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [puhngk] Show IPA
–noun
1. Slang.
a. something or someone worthless or unimportant.
b. a young ruffian; hoodlum.

reply to post by max.is.awake

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I can see that if those guys just ambushed him hardcore and meant to do damage immediately after the bottle(s) where thrown. I am also wondering if the situation could have been calmed by just drawing the weapon with the intent to use it or if it was absolutely necessary to fire.

The cops around here do have to contend with some hardcore mo-fo's as well as just the oddity that surrounds being in one of the highest tourists areas on the planet. I was searching for the news article about an instance last year(no luck) where the Anaheim PD got in a shoot out with a naked man leaving one of the hotels next to D-land (he got away) for example. Just one of the strange things that seem to go down in "Funky Town" as I call it. Bar Fight anyone?... See always crazy doings'a transpirin' in Funky Town. So I would necessarily doubt the cop had to do what he had to do either.

[edit on 25-6-2009 by Shakesbeer]

reply to post by Nutter

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Seems like when you picture the events you see some guy waving a gun around with rubber arms pulling the trigger on an endless magazine rather than the gun being about a foot or inches from the gut of the thug.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by Nutter

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Seems like when you picture the events you see some guy waving a gun around with rubber arms pulling the trigger on an endless magazine rather than the gun being about a foot or inches from the gut of the thug.

And where did you get this information? From the same article that I read?

Did you miss that he shot 3 times and only hit 2 people? Where'd that stray bullet go? If that stray bullet had hit YOUR child, would you be so adamantly excusing this man's actions? I think not.

Edit: Did you also miss that he had time to call for back-up? How is that possible with these so-called "thugs" a foot or inches away from him?

[edit on 25-6-2009 by Nutter]

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