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Iranian revolt Explained - Wake Up!

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posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 06:30 PM
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Iraqis have second thoughts over June 30 date for US troops to leave

For six years Iraqis in this restless provincial capital have been waiting for US forces to withdraw, in the hope that the area will return to being Iraq’s sleepy rural backwater.

However, with only days to go before the last American soldiers are due to pull out of Baquba and other Iraqi cities, the residentshaving doubts.

There are fears that a premature departure will lead to a return of sectarian violence or allow al-Qaeda to re-establish itself. Many would like the Americans to remain until security is restored permanently.




posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 06:43 PM
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Great thread , S&F .

I think you are exactly right with the title " the great game " , thats exactly what it is after all .

We are privy to only small little snapshots of this game at any one time and more often then not we are only made aware of any one issue after the fact .

When we are made aware of a " game move " its only the result of that " game move " that we see , who's catalyst happened weeks , months , and even years before hand .

Nothing happens by accident or chance and no matter how well informed we may think we are , we really don't know the half of it .

Ah yes , " The Great Game " .



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 06:50 PM
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It's probably easy to get used to a security force that in general does not beat you in the streets, lol. But they shouldn't worry, anytime we liberate a country, we give away a complimentary US military base and tens of thousands of US soldiers as part of the package. The thing that makes it different from other occupations, is that our soldiers aren't there to subvert the people of Iraq, but to put military forces ever closer to our enemies, and of course to secure our resource interests as well.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 06:58 PM
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There are rumors about a coup within the Iranian supreme religious leaders.

We will find out very soon where those $400 million went.

My guess: into Rafsanjani's pockets.

The Iranian people will get: Recession



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 07:04 PM
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Great thread, with all your research and various replies by members!


Yes, controlling or influencing petro natural resources makes for global power these days. Better and cheaper to have a friend help you control/influence it than to a have a war with an "enemy" for control.

Oil is the stuff a military needs to run on in this day and age. It's also the basis for all the plastic crap China must manufacture for us.

Americans should still reduce carbon energy usage; why NOT take advantage of alternative forms of energy production? (I'm running my computer off solar at the moment.) We still will use it anyway when we buy that plastic toy or bowl...well, really, there are even alternatives to using so much petro to make that toy, but that's another thread.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 07:10 PM
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I burn a shi$load of fuel, I also take little Joe(thats my boy btw) to T-ball practice and games, I just dont think a tank full of dead "terrorists" should cost so much.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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I still have to read the rest of this thread.. But I wanted to reply to your OP.. ITs been weeks since I wanted to roll up my sleeves and come in and read something like this!

Im glad to see you are still hard at work here, and keeping the people informed for those who are not on the up and up..
Sure much is up for debate for those who might not agree with you.. But this thread was very well laided out and well spoken..

I give you props for this thread.. Will make my job that much easier when trying to break down whats going on..
There is much more to this story as it goes.. its happening right now.. This is what is going on in our little world... And you are not going to get the truth on the MSM or any other outlets other than upon the web here..
Im happy to know that people are still hard at work, and still care enough to be bothered by whats happening in our world...

I will take more time this evening to get through this thread.. And prehaps if there is anything you didn't cover than I have in my head here I will be sure to let you all in on that..
But as it stands.. You laided it all out very well...
S&F from me sir.. Keep up the good work my friend.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 07:32 PM
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Great thread Slayer.


It is true that it appears that there are at least two big oponents who are trying to get control over oil.

Neither one of the oponents have good intentions for the people.

There is one thing though. The Iranian president is a believer of the Imam, and he has even made statements about it in front of the UN.

He believes that a World War is necessary for the Imam to come back, and their prophecy states that this will only happen when the world is in great turmoil and at war, which is why he will try to start a conflict.

There are many other countries that would back the Iranian regime when this happens, however i think China will be the one to lure the U.S. to send our troops to the Korean peninsula, and lure us into another war to weaken the U.S. further.

The U.S. is being attacked from outside, and from within. The current administration has shown to have a total disregard for the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

Apart from the two big players that are apparent (west vs east) there are others who have the real control over what happens in the world, and what these people seem to have planned is for total worldwide chaos, so those people that are left will have no choice but to accept the New World Dictatorial Socialist Regime.

Those who are in real control have no creed, they have no loyalty towards any country, or belief system for the good of humanity. They just want total control over humanity, or what is left after the chaos they got us into, which will only get worse.



[edited for errors]

[edit on 25-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 08:36 PM
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Iran may have already passed their peak oil production. It's one reason why they are making a push for nuclear power. In any case, with European, Russian, and Chinese investment, they see their population becoming more and more modernized, so internal demand for oil will increase at a time when production is already declining. They will have less and less oil for the export market.

The Russians do want as much of an energy monopoly as they can get.

Developing countries...people do tend to think of them as being uniformly poor but really it has always been a case of some people living with very up to date tech and others living in slummy conditions and others living in a traditional manner. Sometimes the extremely modern building with top notch security is just down the street from a wretched slum.

Of course I think they want nuclear weapons as well, but what I think they are doing really is pursuing a nuclear 'break out' capacity. Like Japan, they want to be ready to make a bunch of nukes in a hurry.

US manufacturing has advanced in tech but declined in overall share of the world's production...but...

Since 1957, the year of Sputnik and the establishment of the "open skies" doctrine of satellite surveillance, the smart thing to do would be to build a bunch of secret facilities underground where they would remain unobservable.

Whether it's secret alien tech or not, the movie The Man Who Fell to Earth had it right on. The real tech level is far more advanced than consumer markets get. They'd rather sell us a walk man, then a disc man, then an mp3 player, than a wireless mp3 player, then ______, and so on and so on. Giant leaps in technology are to them a giant waste of profits.

In any case, for all the blood spilt and economic destruction wrought from drug prohibition, the black market arms trade, and god knows what else, I hope they have spent the money wisely. As in, that the plan is to stun us all with awesome tech at some point instead of murdering most of the surface world first.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by 11andrew34
Iran may have already passed their peak oil production. It's one reason why they are making a push for nuclear power. In any case, with European, Russian, and Chinese investment, they see their population becoming more and more modernized, so internal demand for oil will increase at a time when production is already declining. They will have less and less oil for the export market.


Interesting.
Do you have any links that shows Iran is past peak?



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
Still not convinced of the Great Game?
the following is a sample of today's latest headlines. It reads like a play book to me...

P.S. I left the headlines of Micheal Jackson out


[edit on 25-6-2009 by SLAYER69]


Not so. The Great Game of Big Lie Propaganda is being played on IRAN.

Timely Tale Of 1986 Execution Bares Iranian Horrors

IRAN kills women.
Big color page print of middle photo tying or untying arms.
Could they expose the lies to cover Tesla inventions.
That would be too humanitarian.

ED: Is the CIA involved perhaps in both cases?


[edit on 6/25/2009 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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Great post Slayer,

You are explaning what it is all about, and I couldn't agree much.

Iran supplies China for about 20 % of natural gas, and 15 % for oil.

That green revolution, sort of, What a way to checkmate China. Isn't ?

Don't forget the game in Africa, those pirates, somalia and tutti quanti.

What is going on in Iran could easily backfire, if that so-called green revolution is to faill.

I guess Iran has some cards to play in Lebanon and elsewhere ?

Then, What is the other option left to America and Israel to take a grab on these oil fields, and avoid a nuclear Iran.




posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 09:19 PM
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US and Iran escalate war of words



Iran's president has escalated the war of words with Washington, comparing his US counterpart, Barack Obama, to predecessor George Bush.

"Why do you speak so impolitely with this great nation?" Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said at a petrochemical complex's inauguration ceremony in south Iran on Thursday.

"I hope you will avoid interfering in Iran's affairs," he added in the speech broadcast on Iranian state television.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by 11andrew34
Iran may have already passed their peak oil production. It's one reason why they are making a push for nuclear power. In any case, with European, Russian, and Chinese investment, they see their population becoming more and more modernized, so internal demand for oil will increase at a time when production is already declining. They will have less and less oil for the export market.


Interesting.
Do you have any links that shows Iran is past peak?


Iran has failed to upgrade their oil infrastructure in the last 3 decades. The quality of they have is one of the lowest grades and costs an inordinate amount to bring to the surface and refine.

Given their rash spending and support of political proxies, they are only showing a profit when prices are $90 a barrel.

The hundreds of billions it costs to improve their facilities and for exploration is coming from China at a a high cost. They actually are in need of co-operation with the Western oil companies but refuse for the usual political reasons.

Gross mismanagement of the country's resources. Iran will slowly fall off the map as a major oil exporter in the next few years, unless something changes soon.


Mike



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 10:25 PM
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As I;ve said before that the Iranian people are basically good people. They are hard workers and really smart in schools. I truly hope that the Iranians get their peace and maybe join in the old Persian religion which is much better than the present one that they have. Zoroastrian



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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I never meant this thread to be any sort of an attack on the Iranians
I do however feel like many Governments in the world they need to be rained in though.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 11:12 PM
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OIL will be strictly used for plastics in the years to come. It's so last century!

Either the EU or CHINA will solve the energy problem through DIRE NEED.
It will be a technology based on super efficiency, not free energy. Just super duper efficiency bring things like solar power to the table as true alternatives for transportation and so on.

Solar, right now, is on the cusp of being a viable "fuel source" for small transports. All surfaces of a vehicle and EVEN THE PAINT can be solar energy absorbers in the years to come.

This is just one idea of the many that all are aimed toward uber efficiency. China will soon say "to hell with it all... Sick of this..." and BOOM! The tortoise hits the finish line.

F the Middle East, Oil and all those tribal freaks over there. Big bad China is going to make it all worthless. Plastics and simple lubrication is the future of OIL. Believe it!



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 11:19 PM
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Very emotional response. I'm sure you have your reasons.

Care to explain how China will carry this out?
In detail please.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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U.S., Venezuela to restore full diplomatic ties

Reporting from Bogota, Colombia, and Washington -- In a potentially significant step toward repairing their tattered relationship, the United States and Venezuela have formally agreed to resume full diplomatic relations, the State Department announced Thursday.

Department spokesman Ian Kelly said the two nations exchanged notes that in effect formalized pledges that President Obama and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez made at the Summit of the Americas in April to reinstall ambassadors who were expelled in September.

U.S. Ambassador Patrick Duddy and his Venezuelan counterpart, Bernardo Alvarez, soon will resume their former posts in Caracas and Washington, respectively, Kelly said. Each country's embassy had remained open and formal relations were never fully cut.


[edit on 25-6-2009 by SLAYER69]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 12:20 AM
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Pretty much what I have been reading. Though I hadn't heard about them having low quality oil.


Iran's looming crisis is the result of years of neglect and underinvestment. As in other oil-producing countries such as Venezuela and Mexico, the government treats the oil industry as a cash cow, milking its revenues for social programs. It allocates only $3 billion a year for investment, less than a third of what's needed to get production growing again.

Compounding the pressure are policies that encourage profligate energy use. Gasoline prices are set at 35 cents a gallon, which has helped fuel 10%-plus annual growth in consumption, PFC Energy figures. The national thirst for gasoline far outstrips domestic refining capacity, so Iran will import about $5 billion in gasoline this year, or about 40% of its needs. The government is planning a $16 billion refinery building program to boost capacity by 60%. But unless Iran raises fuel prices, the new plants will just mean more consumption


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