JFK - Stabilized, filtered and in high definition

reply to post by BugByte


Good clip.

For the person who said it happened right after that, the clip you show clearly shows there was no gun in the drivers hand, as such it is impossible that he pulled a gun out in .5 seconds and shot someone sitting behind him. You can also clearly see the reflection of the mans hand.

I'm not someone who believes the official story by any stretch, but I simply can't understand why people want to hold on to false theories like this. I have to wonder if it's not all just a big bunch of disinformation to keep people from looking at legitimate things.

Even if we assume the driver did it, then we would need yet another magic bully theory to explain the direction of the wound as well as the reaction of the head - back and to the left. If the shot had come from the driver, then it would have been back and to the right. Meaning, the shot came from a direction on the opposite side of the driver, or as the many witnesses say - from the direction of the grassy knoll.

As well, the video itself that was released to the public is edited. The evidence for this is much more than I could name in a single post, so the link below will give more information.

karws.gso.uri.edu...

Few highlights:

Numerous witnesses, over 40, including the escort patrolmen to the rear of the limousine, said the limousine stopped or slowed down drastically for a second or two. The Muchmore film shows the limousine's brake lights on for nine frames (about half a second) during the time period corresponding to about frames 311-319 of the Zapruder film. This event is not seen in the Zapruder film; in fact, the limousine never comes close to performing this action in the current film.

This is how the secret serviceman was able to catch up and jump on the car. Because it came to almost a stop. It's also probably why Jackie tries to get out. You can see in the other video that those people were pulled off. And they either ride on specific places created for them to ride, covering shot angles, or they have to jog along the side at an already pretty fast pace. As such, the only way for that secret service man to catch up is for the car to slow down. Which once again over 40 people witnessed as having happened, but is absent from the video itself.

If you hope to dig to the bottom of the truth in things like this, then you have to be able to debunk false claims. Holding on to false claims like the driver did it only detracts from that.




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Originally posted by badmedia

Even if we assume the driver did it, then we would need yet another magic bully theory to explain the direction of the wound as well as the reaction of the head - back and to the left. If the shot had come from the driver, then it would have been back and to the right.

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Yeah, I was going to post something similiar to this extent but decided it would be a complete waste of time.

the driver took out the gun when everyone ducked after oswalds shot and it looks like jackie isnt even facing the driver so she couldn't have seen the gun most likely. also the reflection of the passengers head is a load of crap all of the other "shiny head spots" are kind of circular is the shape near the top right of the head. the item reflection in question is definatley a gun id personally say a colt 1911 a1 for example:
gallery.libertynews.org...

im sure the cia or secret service was using a gun at least similar to this at that time

when the driver shoots you can also see his jackets arm and the cuff from his undershirt going over the shoulder

theres my .02 cents

Originally posted by BugByte
Frame 312 - 0.05 seconds before the fatal shot.

This image shows pretty clearly that its the sun reflecting on the passengers forehead and hair.

I don't think it was the Driver.

Someone please tell me I don't see the driver holding a gun in that video. It is clear as day.

Originally posted by ResinLA

Originally posted by BugByte
Frame 312 - 0.05 seconds before the fatal shot.

This image shows pretty clearly that its the sun reflecting on the passengers forehead and hair.

I don't think it was the Driver.

Someone please tell me I don't see the driver holding a gun in that video. It is clear as day.

Can you outline it? All I see is a hand with knuckles facing the camera. I'd like to see an outline of the gun if it's so clear.

Personally I think the driver did it is just something made up to take away from the provable fact that the video itself was edited.

The driver is certainly guilty of being the one who stops the car for some odd reason, which was edited out.

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I have never trusted the zapruder film anyway,as soon as the shot is fired a body guard looks exactly point blank to where its being filmed...instead of the general direction of where the shot/sound came from which you would expect.

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Originally posted by jd140
Don't you think if she saw the driver shoot her husband she would have told someone?

No I don't think she would, look who she was surrounded by...

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What do you reckon that guy had the gall to be winking about at a moment like that?

She would have had other things to take into consideration as well...

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And if I'm not mistaken she had those records sealed until something like 2050, long after her and their son would have been dead. Why do that if she thought some lone nut shot her husband from a book depository?

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I don't think the driver shot him. I believe he was shot 2 times at least in the head. One in back of head and one in the right temple. Greer was in wrong position for the temple shot. Oswald didn't make any shots cause J. Garrison said tests on his face for gun powder were negative. If Greer had shot him it would have hit JFK directly in the face or forehead. So far I'm up to ten shooters. 3 behind grassy knoll fence. (Files, Sarti, and man in suit the deaf mute saw) D. Ferry and man in tree to the left of Zapruder, 1 to the right of Zapruder, 2 in TSBD, Braden in Daltex Bldg, 1 on south plaza across the st. made neck shot through windshield. More if shooters were in sewers or on top of bldgs.

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This shows Greer on JFKs left side, in wrong angle for temple shot. Also look at the man next to Billy Lovelady in the doorway. His face is always blocked out. Is it Jack Ruby?

www.jfkmurdersolved.com...
www.strike-the-root.com...

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(2nd half)shows James Files who confesses, he made the fatal temple shot.


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