Originally posted by jkrog08
I think that 2012 very well could be disclosure, but I have always thought that we will have a public landing around 2012-11, with 2012 being the start of a major battle, That is my take on it anyways.

Some interesting facts about 2012:

* Other Calendars (non-mayan) end on other dates
* Jose Arguelles (the founder of 2012-talk) spent most of his life tripped out on drugs..which is where he got his "insights" from.
* Only a small segment of western-world population is aware of the 2012 movement (not to mention the rest of the world)
* Some of the same marketeers that jumped on the year-2000 bandwagon, are now jumping on 2012
* Both in physics and in metaphysical-thought fixing a certain date in the future is a fallacy that disregards the fluid and uncertain nature of the Future.

There...put that up your pipe

Hi skyfloating,

I agree with your answer to me that things are on constant change from day to day by the decisions man makes BUT....sometimes in history things happen that are unexpected and this is the problem at this time in our history.

This unexpected event is coming and it is going to be very bad from what I have been shown and told. Many different species are here in the deepest of our waters and also in ships that appear as stars in our night skies. They are attempting to lesson the blow when the time comes because they "do" want this race to survive.

What I was told was this event was not supposed to have happened and they have come here to try and make things right when the time does come.

So as I see it your timeline was logical but from what I have seen something occurs that will bring things faster to fruition.

Hint: Radio active volcanic eruptions in the West huge Tsunami's and 3 dreadfully disasterous eartrhquakes 2 off hump of Brazil to Mid Atlantic Ridge and the third the entire hump of Africa to Ridge Tsunami's like never imagined.

This will be anytime to March 17, 2046

I prey more then anyone on this Planet I am wrong, time will tell.

Very nice post. It shows how primate the mass conscious is. People think they are ready but I would agree that when one see's a UFO they change. My family and I saw one, while going home one night. Everyone besides myself freaked out. I mean they really freaked out crying ect... they were scared ,they still don't like to talk about it now. because their mind saw their fantasy as reality. My family is the average family. Believe me when I say I would like disclosure, but humanity IS NOT READY. They still only believe what they are fed in small I mean very small portions. The sheeple need to be in a tighter corral so they can feel safe before they let the TRUTH out.
GOOD DAY EVERYONE

People have been talking about Jesus coming back for hundreds and hundreds of years and nothing yet... Just saying...

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by CaninE.G
But after giving you all that praise, I would like to say once again I don't think it is going to take 200 years to disclose.

Maybe it will be 50 years. My OP is a rebellion against the daily onslaught of ATS posts that claim

"Disclosure by May 15th!"

"Disclosure by France within a month!"

"Disclosure next year?"

and all the hype, BS, marketing-scams and disappointments that creates

beautiful response man. Frickin sweeeeet.

i disagreed.. i think ET contact is coming very soon...from my personal experience..something is coming and fast!

Originally posted by ringo5
i disagreed.. i think ET contact is coming very soon...from my personal experience..something is coming and fast!

Your personal experience has nothing to do with the experience of Billions of others. Ive had personal experiences too. Doesnt mean there will be Disclosure because of me.

well if america has any part in disclosure i bet itl stink like hell and when i mean america i dont mean its people i mean the elite that want to conotrol the information

Forgot to add to my last post (can not edit now) is in the quake locations I wrote of..... there will be a very notable P-WAVE.

"Sorry" I did get off topic skyfloating I do have that tendency so it is time for me to be quite.

When will you humans ever learn.

If you want to know the reason why we do not have contact with an alien species, one only has to look at what has happend whenever old world societies made contact with new world natives.

Most natives were initially and periodically wiped out by Europeans who wanted to conquer their territories, which i dont think is the case for aliens but there are many other reason why their populations were thinned and their societies destroyed.

1. The natives had no immunities to bacterias brought over from Europe. Most native cultures didnt have super bugs and huge pandemics because they didnt live in close quarters in mass quantities and since their villages were spread out so far from each other, if one village were wiped out by disease, chances are it didnt spread to another village. When the Europeans came over, their flus and other bus wiped out millions of native americans.

2. The native americans didnt have a natural tolerance to drugs and alcohol. Basically the Euros has it for centuries, have developed their societal norms and taboos on the use of drugs and alcohol and since most consumed alcohol, most had a high tolerance to the stuff. Drugs and alcohol from Europe played a strong part in destroying the culture and society of the Native americans.

3. Their belief system simply just fell apart. The mayans believed the spanish to be their returning gods. Other native cultures were forced to accept jesus as their saviour and we made to cast down their own belief systems.

Anyone who believes in aliens and wishes contact must take into consideration the lessons we should have learned in the past. What became of the Native american culture (utterly destroyed) will happen to our own for a few simple reasons:

-We still worship gods as our religious belief system, which i might add there is much conflict on this planet about whos is superiour.

-We are arrogant and think that humans are at the top of their game and we are all knowing and we can do no wrong.

-We tend to try and destroy what we dont understand or what we are afraid of

The best reason i can think of why we will NEVER have first contact is because while vastly superior spacefaring races might have solved the problem of curing almost any illness with ease, even ones they may have never encountered before, we on the other hand have not. Their bacterias and viruses would kill our entire species in a matter of weeks. Not to mention it would be hard for them to immunize themselves against the bacterias from out planet, but even harder to immunize us from them since they are not as skilled with our biological nature as they are with themselves. It would literally take them decades of researching our planet to make sure there is firstly no danger to themselves, then to us, possibly longer. We are simply not equipped because we can even solve our own health problems as it is.

This goes the same as us visiting another world, think of the billions of alien bacterias that our bodies have never encountered before. It will bring the term "dont drink the water" to a whole new meaning.

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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by ringo5
i disagreed.. i think ET contact is coming very soon...from my personal experience..something is coming and fast!

Your personal experience has nothing to do with the experience of Billions of others. Ive had personal experiences too. Doesnt mean there will be Disclosure because of me.

Really what they are finding out is who they really are, and when is their ship coming to pick them up, when their projected out of this holographic universe.

OP.... I believe should be before 2012.... we deserve to be told the truth... after all, we live here too and if such things as 'saucers' have crashed and Aliens are being kept in some crypt then we need to know.... well i do anyway coz then at least i can put to rest my theory of who is an Alien here on Earth

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Extrapolating from this basic idea it is my humble opinion that:

* Advanced Extraterrestrial races are unlikely to be evil because evil breeds self-destruction rather than advancement.

* Advanced ETs are likely to have a non-interference policy for the reasons stated.

* A "sudden shift" as in the 2012-Theories circulating is highly unlikely. It is more likely that things such as the Internet are an indicator of this new age than a sudden "return of the Gods" on December 21st 2012.

If you are so sure of your consciousness and mind, why do you choose these even-numbered dates?


If we are ready for contact in 2012, we create that reality. Well-written thread aside, I do not agree with this one bit.

Furthermore, a vast number are already in contact with "one", so why is contact the big deal?? Its US that needs to change..



and for the better i might add!