Humanoid Skull with Horns found in 1880's, page 1

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Philadelphia Human skulls with horns were discovered in a burial mound at Sayre, Bradford County, Pennsylvania, in the 1880's. Horny projections extended two inches above the eye-brows, and the skeletons were seven feet tall, but other than that were anatomically normal. It was estimated that the bodies had been buried around A.D. 1200. The find was made by a reputable group of antiquarians, including the Pennsylvania state historian and dignitary of the Presbyterian Church (Dr. G.P. Donehoo) and two professors, A.B. Skinner, of the American Investigating Museum, and W.K.Morehead, of Phillips Academy, Andover, Massachusetts. The bones were sent to the American Investigating Museum in Philadelphia, where they were later claimed to have been stolen and have never been seen again Pursuit, 6:69-70, July 1973 Mysteries of the Unexplained, p. 39 1992

I don't know how credible Burlington News is but I do have the actual readers digest book 'mysteries of the unexplained' that has this story.

Any thoughts on what this might be? Do they still exist? Were they destroyed by some religious fanatic?

reply to post by lucentenigma

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I am always skeptical when there's only one specimen. Cause genetic anomalies have created a myriad of odd looking humans with seemingly impossible features.

But the fact that the bodies were 7 feet tall, seems to add more fuel to the fire that there could well have been a race of giants on earth at some point. It would be nice if we had more bodies.

EDIT: Ok my bad, apparently they all had horns, why only one picture of one skull then?

[edit on 24-6-2009 by king9072]

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I remember hearing about this some time ago, supposedly there was a legend amongst the Lenape natives that they had a war with these giants and chased them out to the mid-west. Supposedly a tribe from the mid-west had a story about a wandering tribe of giants who came from the East, which are thought to be the ones chased out of Pennsylvania. The tribe of giants was called the Allegewi I think...

This sort of story always gets me excited and reminds me of how little we truly know of our past history particularly here in North America thanks to the killing, persecution, and assimilation of so many Native Americans there are long lost chunks of history to which these horned giants and burial mounds belong...

Well, there is medical evidence for horns growing out of the head.

Warning, kind of ick:

img530.imageshack.us...

I don't know if the OP's skull is authentic, I'm just saying...

[edit on 24/6/2009 by kosmicjack]

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lol! The photo in the link is not "kind of ick".......

It's pretty major ick!!

(Nonetheless-- poor woman).

reply to post by ladyinwaiting

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edit to add: It kind of makes one want to hurl!



or should I say...

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by Deb Twigg, Executive Director of the Susquehanna River Archaeological Center of Native Indian Studies (SRAC) located at 345 Broad Street, Waverly, NY

Wednesday, July 16, 2008
The Horned Skeleton Story

hile doing research for my article in Pa Archaeologist and making the website, www.SpanishHill.com , I have come acrossed many references to the "Giant Horned Skeletons" that were supposedly found in the 1880's "in a mound near Sayre, PA." Most people that contact me through the internet concerning this story do so because they believe that Spanish Hill must certainly be the mound that was being referenced. However, I have no evidence to support that theory. In fact, I have decided to provide what information I do have for you, the reader to decide whether this story is factual or merely a mythical legend.

"Chemung's Predecessors Huge Giants

Were Seven Feet Tall and Had Horns" - Thursday July 12, 1916.

This is the headline from the earliest news article that I can find. It is from 1916,( as opposed to the 1880's.) This article goes on to say that this is "One of the Most Remarkable Scientific Discoveries in History Made Here - Sixty Eight Skeletons of Men Living 700 years ago Unearthed between Sayre and Waverly". "A Queer Fellow: He was seven feet in height. Horns protruded from his skull"."horns of solid bone which grew straight out from the skull about two inches above the perfectly formed skull and which gave every evidence of having been there since birth."

However a follow-up article is also available to this article with a quote from one of the men from the Moorehead expedition who have been identified as the team who found the skeletons. In the follow-up article, Alanson Skinner, asked, "Will you grant me the privilege of correcting the assertions of a news dispatch concerning a find made by our party and the alleged discovery of a mound near Sayre, Pa, in which the bones of men seven feet and more were unearthed? The dispatch further narrates the astounding fact that on some of the skulls, two inches above the perfectly formed forehead, were protuberances of bone, the inference being that these monsters were horned!" Unfortunately, I can only include short excerpts from it here, but you get the idea and can read these articles in their entirety at:www.spanishhill.com...

Later in 1921, the founder of the Tioga Point Museum and owner of the land where the burials were supposedly found, Louise Welles Murray followed this up with her explanation as to what had happened that day in her article, "Aboriginal Sites in and Near "Teago", now Athens, PA." In this article she stated, "While the writer was present one of the men in working a grave exclaimed, "There are horns over his head!" Mr. Skinner said that indicated chieftainship. Later this was found to be a bundle burial, completely covered with antlers of a Virginia deer. A passing visitor, however, heard the exclamation and attempted to verify it by interrogating a fun-loving Maine workman, and the story grew and was printed from coast to coast that one or more skulls had been found with horns growing from the forehead!"

Recently, I was given a small grocery store checkout style booklet that had the following on pages 16 & 17:

"It was the late 1880's. A group of scientists were conducting an expedition through the Bradford County area of Pennsylvania, in the northeastern part of the state near the New York state line.

The group, which included a Pennsylvania state historian and two professors, as well as a member of the Presbyterian church's hierarchy, had worked their way to a town called Sayre, where they became interested in a series of what appeared to be burial mounds.

Dr. P.G. Donehoo of the church and professor's A.B. Skinner and W.K. Moorehead of the American Investigation Museum and Phillips Academy in Andover, respectively led their group to the first of the mouonds to begin careful excavation.

What they uncovered has puzzled science for nearly a hundred years.

Painstakingly scraping away dirt and rocks the expedition revealed several skeletons of males. The burial date of the skeleltons was estimated at about A.D. 1200. So far, not unusual. But then they measured the remains and looked more closely at the structure. It was then discovered that the males had been over seven feet tall - - all of them - - a height unheard of in ancient times.

But strangest of all, close examinations of the skulls of the mystery men showed that they had horns...two actual horns apiece...that were an integral part of each skull.

Impossible, but they were there. Seven foot giants with horned skulls who died nearly 800 years ago.
The excited scientists carefully wrapped the remains for shipping and sent them to the American Investigation Museum in Philadelphia for closer examination. At the facility, scientists puzzled over the mysterious skeletons for months. Articles about them appeared in journals and magazines and then somehow they disappeared and were never seen again, taking with them the riddle that forever belongs to the unsolved." - Source: Great Unexplained Mysteries- Probing the Unknown - Globe Communications Corp, 1989

With that I have given you what I know or where to find it and will leave this up to you to decide for yourself what is truth or legend, and will just state that while I think it is a fun topic, it would be irresponsible to not include Skinner's and Murray's explanations in any report on this topic. So while you can find tons of references on the internet concerning our local "giants with horns" to this day, while you are surfing, don't forget to check out all that I have compiled at:

www.spanishhill.com...

Want to see actual local artifacts and learn more about the local Native Americans that lived here centuries ago? Visit SRAC at 345 Broad St. Waverly from 1-5pm Tuesdays - Fridays and 11-3pm on Saturdays!

This has been discussed several times on ATS. I would like to point out a single thread (or rather a single post) from our in-house expert Byrd:
Previous discussion: Important post

(This is the shortened version of the post: )

Originally posted by Byrd
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The first displays evidence of manufacturing -- for one thing, the skull's sutures (cracks) are missing (they should be there) and features that must be present (holes below the eye sockets where the nerves run, etc) are "mysteriously missing" from the skull.

Then there's this quote:

During an archaeological dig in Sayre, Bradford County, Pennsylvania in the 1880s, a number of human skulls were unearthed. These skeletons were anatomically correct, except for the anomaly of their projections, two inches above the eyebrow, and the fact that their average height in life would have been around seven feet tall. The bones were sent to the American Investigating Museum in Philadelphia, where they were stolen - never to be seen again.

No such thing as "The American Investigating Museum". And "we found this and took a picture but it Mysteriously Vanished or was stolen" is a hallmark of a hoax tale.
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Horned people (keratinism) is a known genetic anomaly.
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Starchild skull was tested at one time and found to be 100% human, though the person who has charge of the skull didn't like the verdict (apparently). Hydrocephalus has been the suggested diagnosis.
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[edit on 25-6-2009 by Gemwolf]

Here's an interesting site. They make replica fossil remains. Not saying this is the case, but...

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