Great post!! I will have to use my roomies computer to watch the video since I have no sound. I will bring this article to a few friends and family members attention who deal with this on a daily basis. They should know the truth too! Thanks for finding this, I will have to read the other links to get a better understanding. S&F

i respect this guys work, he is a scientist who speaks to important people, so im not discrediting him..but.

i just cannot buy that obesity is not caused by eating to much ?!?!

it is most deffinitelly caused by eating to much, but... its about eating to much of the WRONG things.

compare the people of the uk now the people of the uk in the 30-40's... have you ever seen pictures of fat people back then ?! or even just a fat kid, it was very rare and not because people did not eat the same amounts, its because back then food was alot less chemical, nowadays food is filled with all sorts of crap to keep it tasty and addictive and meat (well, animals) is pumped full of hormones ect .... its all the additives that do it, if everyone had good home cooked meals (and pack lunches to work) every day things wouldnt be half as bad fat wise as they are now.

just my 2 cents ... imno scientist

Eat food + no exercise = you get fat

Go on diet + exercise = burn calories

Do i get a doctorate for those formulas?

I don't want to get too far into this cause I seriously do not want to look up the sources, but I know they exist and the facts have been around for a decade now.


When we are on low card, low fat diets, after a short period we certain chemical our body produces starts to get the impression that we are going through starvation. Reducing the amount of calories that are burned and feverishly attempts to store as much fat from what it intakes.

On these diets, this chemical dries up as we enter our "starvation" and the body quits shedding fat. But, the kicker is, is that you can restart the chemical by having a day of complex carb gorging. In fact, studies showed that people who stayed near starvation for several days, then had one day of complex carb gorging, maintained levels of this chemical similar to someone who was eating all the time everyday.

But noone should consider any form of 1 sided diet, if you truly want to lose weight and get healthy, it requires a multi-pronged attack of proper, balanced eating, as well as exercise. Anything that promises fast fat lose is either garbage, or dangerous to your long term health. It's also worth noting that most of these crash diets, that even on the small percentage that they work for, those people gain weight back rapidly as they return to prior habits.

Interesting find! Yuo know..it seems to me, obiesity didnt show up till abuot 1990...that is when food companys like pringles, started using the additive OLESTRA rememebr that? It caused alot to have the runs and all, and they wnted to put it in as much of the food as they could, advertising it as a calorie free ingriedient,..so you could consume more nad not get fat, which is rediculous... any way you eat, overeating be it healhty or bad is not good at all.. obviously, excessive food will strecth your stamoch out, over yuor belt buckle, even if it was 6 or 7 bowls of salad! int ime that is. Its gunna reak havok on yuor bodys balance.
They need to stop with Monsantos and adding so much corn syrup, sodium and artificla additives to the food.

It's also worth noting that Insulin spikes are what cause our body to store fat. It's also no coincidence that diabetes has grown just as rapidly as obesity itself.

I just visited the states recently, and noticed that the "small" sodas from American restaurants were practically the same size as a large in Canadian establishments. The fact that Canada has far less obesity than the US should also be noted.

With upwards of 50 grams of sugar in a single drink thats an immediate insulin spike, and immediate fat storage. The obesity enigma is not that complicated, we are what we eat.

Edit: I just noticed your second post referring to Insulin so this post may seem redundant. I'm confused, are you saying you support Gary Taubes' research or not?

Originally posted by king9072
I don't want to get too far into this cause I seriously do not want to look up the sources, but I know they exist and the facts have been around for a decade now.

I'll do it for ya! I'll have soon enough...

When we are on low card, low fat diets, after a short period we certain chemical our body produces starts to get the impression that we are going through starvation. Reducing the amount of calories that are burned and feverishly attempts to store as much fat from what it intakes.

You do realize that what you're saying is that if you restrict calories, as much as one would have to in order to eat a low-fat, low-carb diet, long enough, the body compensates.

On these diets, this chemical dries up as we enter our "starvation" and the body quits shedding fat. But, the kicker is, is that you can restart the chemical by having a day of complex carb gorging. In fact, studies showed that people who stayed near starvation for several days, then had one day of complex carb gorging, maintained levels of this chemical similar to someone who was eating all the time everyday.

But noone should consider any form of 1 sided diet, if you truly want to lose weight and get healthy, it requires a multi-pronged attack of proper, balanced eating, as well as exercise. Anything that promises fast fat lose is either garbage, or dangerous to your long term health. It's also worth noting that most of these crash diets, that even on the small percentage that they work for, those people gain weight back rapidly as they return to prior habits.

This is not a crash diet. In fact, Taubes has stated multiple times that he wanted this book to strictly be research based and to present evidence of misinformation in medical science.

What you're saying is that no one can live on a restricted calorie diet for long and once it's over, the weight is put right back on, sometimes in greater quantities.

The chemical you're referring to is actually, I believe, receptors that form on the outside of fat cells during restricted calorie dieting that activate fat storage so that the weight is back to what the body thinks is normal. This is, unfortunately, a side-effect of thousands of years of evolution.

You can't store fat unless you have insulin, Type 1 diabetics know this. I'm assuming that when you say "complex carb" you're referring to a carbohydrate that digests and raises blood glucose levels slowly as not to spike insulin. Eating true complex carbs, like most vegetables and fruits, while staying away from cereal grains will have little effect on weight gain as they are not going to spike insulin.

Besides, the point that Gary Taubes is making is, don't eat so many carbs, eat fat and protein because there is no evidence to suggest that they are bad for you.

-Dev

[edit on 24-6-2009 by DevolutionEvolvd]

Interesting approach. I need to watch the video. Do we need to take artificial hormones to correct the imbalance?

I refuse to take anything artificial if I it can be avoided.

My sister is a nurse who works with overweight people who are having problems with their health due to their size. Over the years she has gradually gone from having sympathy with those attending the clinics to feeling like it's all a waste of time. She reckons its their lack of will power coupled with low self esteem. Often a patient will get on the scales and on discovering that they've gained weight will break down in tears and confess to eating 12 Bramley Apple Tarts (actual example) when faced with every day pressures such as bills, work schedules, etc. They find solice in food the way alcoholics do with strong spirits.
Of course some are just greedy and never know when to put the fork down and step away from the buffet table, while others just can't pass a rotisserie chicken without eating it, but some do seem to just rely too much on the good feelings that tasty food gives them. Unfortunately, most of that food is fried or full of saturated fat.