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Originally posted by bakednutz
And where is the proof that the US wants to provoke N. Korea? What would we stand to gain in that situation? And I suppose we are provoking Iran and so on and so forth? Get real......Not everything is a conspiracy.
Originally posted by spy66
Personally i don't think Kimmy is threatening the US without a reason. But the odd thing is we don't often get the facts about the reason. We always get the news that NK is threatening the US without cause first. Then we only hear of sanctions as a retaliation.
Why does it have to be a problem for the US that North and south Korea dont want to be merged as one nation?
I dont think the US is scared of NK attacking the United states. But the US is scared that NK is going to attacking US geopolitical interests in the far east.
US don't just want to protect their American borders. The US also want to protect their aria of control as well.
[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]
Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by tim1989
America is the most destructive country on Earth.
By all means, give an example.
We give away more foreign aid than any other country by far.
But should Americans be proud of its military? [...] We do not have to be proud of the decisions by the elitists and politicians that use our military in an unpatriotic way. But proud of the people who serve and the accomplishments of its past...absolutely.
Originally posted by bakednutz
They have some bombs but they have no way of getting them here to the mainland. There comments are totally pointless.
Vietnam, obviously: but let's not forget Laos and Cambodia, both bombed "illegally" (in other words, secretly, without a declaration of war) and the whole region blanketed with Agent Orange. At least a million people killed.
Indonesia: over a hundred thousand people killed by US-trained death squads from lists provided by the CIA after the US-inspired coup.
Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Guatemala, El Salvador, many others: the pattern repeats itself.
Iran: the US installs the Shah and gives him SAVAK, a secret police which they train and equip.
Decades ago Amnesty International noted an unmistakable link between US aid to a country and that country's human rights record: the higher the level of aid, the worse the human rights abuses. It's a simple and unmistakable statistical fact.
But most importantly, like most other countries, foreign aid is a tool of foreign policy. And of course Israel gets the lion's share of foreign aid.
But also, most of that foreign aid goes on buying stuff from US companies that other countries may or may not need. Most of Israel's foreign aid goes on buying US weapons, for example.
It's also used as a tax-deductible dumping ground by the corporations, which is why you have things like diet pills being sent to famine areas.
So put aside your illusions that the US is doing grand things around the globe with all that aid.
Name one other country that has invaded as many places, subverted as many governments, assassinated as many presidents in the past half-century. I think you'll find you can't.
See... you also ruin things a bit by coming out with this sentimental twaddle...
And of course Iraq: over a million killed
So yes, for those people who've actually studied the history, the US IS the most destructive nation on the planet. Even the USSR never had the planet-spanning capabilities, nor the historical longevity that the US has.
Brigadier-General Smedley D. Butler
Originally posted by KEMIK
I'm curious to see what new toys the US breaks out if this thing goes down (hopefully not).
Originally posted by googolplex
This is like the punk running his mouth, what a tough guy he is. Alot of people believe him and are afraid of him.
So this goes on till a real tough guy kicks the crap out of him, and he whimpers away.
Threats like this need to be addressed, before thay are able to fullfill, their threat.
Japan cried because we Nuked them, but if you think for second they would not of done it to us to a even greater extent, your in dream land.
I would tell NK to cease and desists, or suffer the consequences, to me this threat is declaring war on United States and it's people.
Originally posted by sandyg
I agree! Kim needs to be taught a lesson. He thinks he can throw a tantrum and the world is suppose to give in to him. I don't like war, but it's high time he learns some manners before he is stronger and it's too late!
Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
Well... Apart from both nation's powers I cant see how you can underestimate NK like that and laugh.
What you should be thinking is... why does the US make threats against their nuclear program, Lil Kim ignores the US and keeps hes own way and the US stands still doing nothing? Empty threats?! And why does he say he will erase the US off the maps and the US doesnt do any "preemptive" crap like you love to do... maybe theres a lot more to korea than mmets the eye and you, "the people", have no idea.
Maybe they do have the power to obliterate the US, maybe they dont... one thing is certain, the US have no capability of actually entering NK to do anything. Topography is not one of US "fortes"... see vietnam for reference... you pretty much lost a war against a couple of poor guys, badly equipped dressed in rags. The US supremacy means NOTHING in NK.
Either way, if the US doesnt respond its just because their been called and their chikened out inside or they know that a "response" will make massive damage on their side. Lots of troops and means are away in the other part of the world, the terrain is not helping either... better stay quiet. And IF they stay quiet they will look pretty weak to the eyes of the world.
We all know the US only picks fights with smaller countries... now I for once would like to see the US taking a beating so they lose their lousy foreign policy, the way that they think they rule the world and still have the "holier than thou" face and stop policing the damn world.
I say... NK, do what you have to do, stop barking and start biting... US prove that you're up to it and that you are indeed the world's superpower (which we all know you're not) and stop backing up like chickens and face NK once and for all. Either way we'll see a new dawn when its over.
Let the games begin!
(I bet the US will chicken out like they always do with NK)