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U.S. urges N. Korea to free two American journalists
North Korean ship poses challenge for US allies along its route
Originally posted by Karlhungis
reply to post by jackflap
Since you obviously have all of the answers.... What would you propose that we do?
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
If a US citizen is harmed or imprisoned illegally, we go get them!
who's that, china?
It should be unthinkable to harm a citizen of the last remaining Superpower
like america knew sadamn had WMD? yeah? how's that working out for ya?
If we know there are weapons on that ship, we offer to do things the peaceful way, and then we sink it!
nope, it's an illusion, if you use it it is shown to be an illusion and so it is only useless if used.
Our military might is useless unless we USE it!
as i said, an illusion.
We haven't finished a war since WWII. We have no credibility in the world.
nope, a police forse has some sort af mandate from the people it presumes to police, who mandated the US with being a police force?
We are a police force instead of a military!
which countries exactly? ones that break UN resolutions? ones that ignore them? ones you don't like?
I think there would be a lot less challenges, and skirmishes, if we started to make some examples of people. I discipline my kids better than the UN does these countries!
illegally imprisoned how? they broke north korean law inside of north korea and were tried by the north korean government. where's the illegality?
like america knew sadamn had WMD? yeah? how's that working out for ya?
Our military might is useless unless we USE it!
nope, it's an illusion, if you use it it is shown to be an illusion and so it is only useless if used.
We haven't finished a war since WWII. We have no credibility in the world. "as i said, an illusion."
We are a police force instead of a military!
nope, a police forse has some sort af mandate from the people it presumes to police, who mandated the US with being a police force?
I think there would be a lot less challenges, and skirmishes, if we started to make some examples of people. I discipline my kids better than the UN does these countries!
which countries exactly? ones that break UN resolutions? ones that ignore them? ones you don't like?
Originally posted by total newbie
reply to post by DohBama
If the US or Israeli forces hit the Iranians and hit them hard, NK could take this as an opportunity to play it's hand.
The US might try to put the DU to them and use precision guided munitions for a surgical strike. But from last fall we saw the Russians pull out some ss20's when faced with a similar prospect in South Ossetia.
The North Koreans could take a similar stance.
them being in NK in the first place is breaking the law. in my book it's a risk they take crossing the border, which isn't easy to do.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
often times journalists and others are arrested on weak suspicions and we don't stand up for them.
We are talking about a ship, not a country.
yes, but they are pretty irrelevant to fighting a modern war. you can be the best skier in the world and have the best ski's ever made but it won't help you much if you're in a jungle.
Nope, I still believe our military training and technology are vastly superior to anyone else's in the world.
meh, doubt it. maybe some tinpot third world country but china, russia, the eu......doubt it.
I believe we could move in with overwhelming force and conquer anyone we chose to. We are hamstrung by Political Correctness, Human Rights issues, and internal bickering.
They haven't seen us WIN anything,
name one time that's happened.
I don't want us to be a police force, and nobody mandated it, but the UN seems to lean on us for it, and then criticize our methods!
the UN is a peace keeping and diplomatic organisation, it's not in the business of enforcing anything and nor should it be.
Exactly, I think the UN should stand behind their resolutions with force if necessary,
A South Korean intelligence official said Monday that his agency believes the North Korean ship is carrying small weapons and is sailing toward the Burmese city of Rangoon. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity citing the sensitive nature of the information, said he could provide no further details. Burma's military government, which faces an arms embargo from the US and the European Union, reportedly has bought weapons from North Korea in the past.
Exactly, I think the UN should stand behind their resolutions with force if necessary,
the UN is a peace keeping and diplomatic organisation, it's not in the business of enforcing anything and nor should it be.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
I propose we go the way of the Romans! If a US citizen is harmed or imprisoned illegally, we go get them! It should be unthinkable to harm a citizen of the last remaining Superpower (ok a bankrupt superpower).
Originally posted by thegreatobserver
Originally posted by getreadyalready
I propose we go the way of the Romans! If a US citizen is harmed or imprisoned illegally, we go get them! It should be unthinkable to harm a citizen of the last remaining Superpower (ok a bankrupt superpower).
Besides the fact that they were imprisoned "legally" according to N Korean law I think the US can be glad that other countries don't see it like you do
Because if other nations that see their citizens imprisoned illegally in US camps, off shore or inland (which has proven to be the case and admitted by officials), would march in and get them with force, this country would be a battle field.
[edit on 24-6-2009 by thegreatobserver]