A400M: Britain Blocks Six-Month Extension; Decision in Late July, page 1
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Topic started on 24-6-2009 @ 05:58 AM by Harlequin
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PARIS --- Seeking major concessions from prime contractor Airbus Military, Britain yesterday vetoed a French-German proposal to extend ongoing talks on the A400M military transport aircraft until the end of the year.

Instead, defense ministers of the seven partner nations (Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain, Turkey and UK) agreed to meet again in Paris in late July to decide and how, to take the program forward



someone is seriously pissed at the french - they want to play for time and the UK have slapped them down witha NO - sort it out now.


reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 03:29 AM by FredT
reply to post by kilcoo316



For once you and I agree on something. The Osprey seems a bit of a dog and it should have been canceled a long time ago.

Operational experience in Somolia, Serbia, and the both Gulf Wars has shown that attack chopters are no match for an RPG. I shudder to think of the USMC using them to storm beacheads.

V-22’s Iraq Performance Should Prompt Program Review, GAO Says
June 23 (Bloomberg) -- The V-22 Osprey’s performance during its 19 months in Iraq was substandard and the Pentagon should review whether the aircraft’s cost and reliability merit continuing the program, according to congressional auditors.

The tilt-rotor plane’s components wear out too soon, making it too costly to maintain and grounded too much of the time, the U.S. Government Accountability Office said.

The Defense Department has spent $28 billion on the aircraft developed and built by Textron Inc. and Boeing Co. and has bought 206 planes to date. It plans to spend $25 billion more on upgrades and the purchase of the remaining 252 planes in the 458-aircraft program for the Marine Corps and Air Force Special Operations Command.

Given the “significant funding needs” to complete the program, “now is a good time to consider the return on this investment as well as other, less costly alternatives that can fill the current requirement,” the watchdog agency said.
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93 million per copy That alone should kill it. Its almost as bad as the new presidential chopter.


Adding to problems outlined by GAO, V-22 costs have risen sharply above initial projections. In 1996, the plan was to build nearly 1,000 of them in 10 years at $37.7 million each. Now, the plan is for fewer than 500 at $93.4 million apiece -- a procurement unit cost jump of 148 percent, GAO said.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 05:27 AM by Jezza
reply to post by waynos



You might be happy with this.

An-70 Returns From The Dead
Activity on Antonov An-70 airlifter has been dormant for several years, but a model of the Ukrainian-built heavy airlifter nonetheless appeared in the company's exhibit area. Two prototypes of the turboprop-powered An-70 were developed more than a decade ahead of the similarly sized Airbus A400M, but failed to find its market in the region's turbulent post-Soviet era. With the A400M's current developmental struggles, Antonov perhaps sees hope for a market revival.
From the Paris airshow.
It would be great to see the program get off the ground.

link


reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 10:57 AM by FredT
reply to post by waynos




Whats the unit cost for the An? I for some reason never looked at the cost for the A400 100 million euros

Thats quite a bit for and I assume any production foreward will cost alot more.

But if your goign that route, whats wrong with a mix of C-130J's and C-17

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