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Britain's Got No Talent: Half of U.K. Expats Threaten to Exit

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posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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Hi!

I agree - it's a global phenomena. But the UK went through this around 20 years ago - I worked in London around then for a bank and watched the 'management' consider expanding their dealing room x 4 (along with every other bank) and wondered how much money was there to actually 'deal'....

My Bank (as I'm sure every other one) moved into house mortgages, car loans - you name it. But when the crunch came - suprisngly it still had two Financial Directors whilst the normal people were 'downsized', 'rightsized', 're-allocted' made redundant.... To-day believe that this is called 'taking a sebatical?

Most people will either stay where they are or go where they feel more comfortable - immigration rules allowing. Probably the hardest thing for most in moving around the world is what we, here on ATS, take for granted... the English language.

Peace!




posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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I agree about all the banks but I thought HSBC was doing well?

The next bubble to burst is the once imuned Credit Unions and smaller banks that dealt with Commercial paper.

Big Commercial developers and small time contractors going in default.

Good point about the English language!



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by Retseh

Originally posted by Fang

So tell me Retseh where did you hear that?



Why from your very own statistics dear boy.

www.telegraph.co.uk...


They will cite the coarsening of British society, the rudeness and the aggression on our unsafe streets, the dead hand of welfarism, hospitals that make you sick, not better - the list is long.

One thing will be mentioned more than any other: that unchecked immigration over the past decade is creating a country many Britons no longer feel comfortable in.




I'd be interested to hear what humiliation, slight or injustice you have suffered at our hands that leads you to make these posts.


You know this is quite interesting, this site must contain literally thousands of anti-american posts by UK residents, and yet you find a lone poster (me) who takes a pop at the UK, and you cry foul.

I could list the injustices of this one-directional relationship. The way that americans are portrayed as fat, stupid, and loud by the British media, compared to the way that the typical american regards the British as nothing more vile than polite tea drinkers. Or the fact that the BBC has admitted they "previously" had an open anti-american bias in their reporting, or how about the attempts of the British anti-gun Snowdrop group to meddle in American home-affairs by pressing for gun bans here after running out of guns to ban in the UK.

I could go on, but you get the point, a country that holds us in such collective low esteem but whose residents are ever eager to flee here for the lower taxes and higher standard of living galls me somewhat. Come over by all means, but leave your prejudices and warped British political mentality at the doorstep, thank you ever so glad, because we don't need "fixing" as you have so successfully done to your own nation.



According to you, the UK is always teetering on the brink of economic collapse, about to explode in an inferno of civil unrest or become a Muslim state.


Well prediction #1 appears to have arrived, what a sage I am - number #2 and #3 are closely linked, and in my opinion both are very much in your very near future, some of us still remember Brixton, not just the US Watts riots.



I see from other US posters on this site that for many, work ( hard or otherwise) is in short supply for many over there. I get the impression though that you are the sort of guy who would helpfully shout 'Adapt or die' at them.


I don't have to shout anything at them, the vast majority of americans understand that they can't go running to the government for money when things go south, but that is changing, regrettably we are becoming more like you.


The UK workforce works longer hours and have fewer holidays than any of the other leading economies in Europe.


So you're the World's tallest pygmies, congratulations. Let me know how you stack up against us or the Japanese.



Motability is a car leasing scheme for the disabled.


Rheumatoid Arthritis isn't "disabled", it's a fact of life if you live in such a cold, damp climate and are over the age of 65. Your system allows thousands of spongers to milk off the hard working.



Are you telling me that pregnant teens are thrown onto the streets in the US?


Well they certainly don't get an apartment and a weekly child welfare allowance, only in hardship cases. Is it any wonder that your bejewelled isle has the highest teen pregnancy rates in Europe?



We do pay for our Health care, through taxation.


Yes, and if you have a job you also pay for the healthcare of the great unwashed too, I prefer to pay only for my own, and I don't have to face a waiting list for non-essential surgery or squeeze into an over-crowded doctor's waiting room filled with immigrants and babies who have nothing more serious than colic.



But yes you do have your guns.


Yes we do, annoying isn't it, and especially ironic when you consider that the reason we have them is because we required them to evict an oppressive anti-gun regime - why yes, it was the British.


[edit on 24-6-2009 by Retseh]


Oh dear. I'm sure you know what I'm going to say about the Telegraph, (they consider the UK has been on the slide since the end of empire) so I won't bother. But you should widen your sources, even if only to confirm your prejudices. As some one who has worked overseas for long periods, I would have appeared on statistics similar to the OECDS at least twice in the last twenty years. But here I am back home along with many other Brits who work overseas during their careers. We do get about a lot, always have. The OP was pointing out that many foreign nationals who came to London during the good years are now 'draining' back home. It's all part of the ebb and flow of this wacky Global Economy we all live in and which some people find uncomfortable.

I was curious about your previous posts about our 'bejewelled Island', so I wasn't prompted simply by your post on this thread. There seemed to be a pattern emerging. As for anti-Americanism, not from me sir. The US is a remarkable country which I visit two or three times a year, in which I have many friends and where I have been shown great generosity and kindness. As I have said before, any nation that has given mankind The Simpsons and Apple Computers can't be all bad. Most of the Anti-Americanism you rant about is an inevitable product of being the worlds sole superpower, it goes with the territory. I'm surprised that some one with your world view is bothered by it.

No, I don't think you are much of a sage. Our economy is about as grim as yours but you are clearly having a good recession, so that's a comfort. Sharia law, race riots and social collapse in the UK? I don't think so. How are the Spanish lessons going? By the way here's something that might improve our standing with you, The BNP won two seats at the European elections.

I was quite looking forward to this when I started but I've lost my curiosity. As I look back on your post and your comments on those who suffer a crippling disease, pregnant teenagers, immigrants, your unemployed fellow citizens,you have even adopted the Terhan line on the BBC! The issue here is not a dislike of the UK but misanthropy.

[edit on 07/21/06 by Fang]



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 08:59 PM
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Hi,
I dont mean to but in. I have never been to the UK but heard it's a nice place to travel. I'll wait until the US economy picks up first.



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 10:08 PM
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Please don't get your ideas about Britain from that obscene cariacature of a newspaper the Daily Torygraph.

Thanks.



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by CRB86
Please don't get your ideas about Britain from that obscene cariacature of a newspaper the Daily Torygraph.

Thanks.


Not to worry I wont. I get enough info from Gordon Brown to know what the labor party and ecomonic affairs are like. I wish they would just throw him out.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by wonderworld
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Hi,
I dont mean to but in. I have never been to the UK but heard it's a nice place to travel. I'll wait until the US economy picks up first.


Wonderworld, I hope you do. When you come don't just do the cities. You won't find many countries that have such a geographic diversity in so small a land mass.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Fang

Originally posted by wonderworld
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Hi,
I dont mean to but in. I have never been to the UK but heard it's a nice place to travel. I'll wait until the US economy picks up first.


Wonderworld, I hope you do. When you come don't just do the cities. You won't find many countries that have such a geographic diversity in so small a land mass.


Where would the best place to travel be?? Something with a lot of cultual exibits or old museums?



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 02:43 PM
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That's the point. You can certainly 'Do' the museums and galleries in London but Edinburgh is just a 4 hour train ride away with York and Durham on the same line. If you are into walking and the open country, The Lake District is stunning. Like wise the North Yorkshire moors or The Yorkshire Dales. Devon and Cornwall are a 4 to 6 hour drive from London. Hiring a car might be an idea if you want to see more than London and the cities.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 03:09 PM
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If you like history, go to York. Most of it is about 1000 years old. One of the few historic places left that hasn't been dismantled/bombed.

There is good stuff to see/do everywhere. Just don't fall into the usual tourists trap and stay in London!



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by CRB86
If you like history, go to York. Most of it is about 1000 years old. One of the few historic places left that hasn't been dismantled/bombed


I had a pretty good go at it when I was a student there.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 06:28 PM
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It's so nice to talk with people from Britain. Are you from there? I heard wonderful stories about the historical sites and attractions. Does Britain have google earth?

I'm still waiting on Canada to do so.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 08:34 PM
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Yeah, i'm British, well English first, then British, (although the British flag is cooler than the English one)

If it's history you want, we've got it by the bucket. Stonehenge is pretty incredible when you see it in person, and up in the scottish isles there's stuff that even predates that. You kind of take it for granted that the street you're walking down could be 600 years old. It makes me smile to think that my local pub is older than the United States by about 200 years!

You should definitely come and visit, and we do have google earth so you can check it all out beforehand!



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 03:44 PM
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That does seem so strange that your pub is older than the US and the roads could be 600 years old. TOO cool!

Last year I told my boss I wanted to be paid in Euros but now changed my mind. I cant keep up with it all.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by CRB86
Please don't get your ideas about Britain from that obscene cariacature of a newspaper the Daily Torygraph.

Thanks.


Exactly which British newspaper do you regard as trustworthy then?

The Socialist Worker perhaps.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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I was curious too, as to what newspapers he was talking about. It's all over the news, especially with Gordon Brown in the spot light. Why dont they throw that guy out?



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