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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 07:04 PM by Electro38

I can't believe none of these guys, Kissinger, McCain (who has been saying some very stupid things too lately) haven't learned anything from Iraq.

Remember when they all were drumming up the hype to invade Iraq, all saying that the Iraqis would be "dancing in the streets" and treating the US as liberators?

McCain was on Larry King Live last night making references to other nations that we got involved in which had "good" outcomes as examples of why we should take a more active role in Iran now.

My point is they always start making these comparisons to sell it to people before invading or doing something dumb. We all know Iran is no Kosovo, or USSR during the Berlin wall thing, or Poland in 1980.

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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 07:12 PM by Erasurehead

Originally posted by bobbylove321
Let's be serious for a second does Henry Kissinger even sound human?

He reminds me of Jabba The Hut from Star Wars.

This guy should be the only evidence needed that aliens exist.

No, but on a serious note, he's very weird, and his voice is annoying. Who cares what he has to say. He would be living in a retirement home if it wasn't for his political connections.

[tinfoil hat on]
I think he might be a reptile. Take a look at his left eye in both of these pictures. It looks like a snakes eye. He is having trouble keeping the left eye in human form.

[/tinfoil hat off]

reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 07:32 PM by spinkyboo

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by dnaobs

I don't think kissinger's comments can be put aside as a neocon agenda apart from the current administration, or the ramblings of a crazy old man.
It appears he doesn't play an important role in the current administration.

Obama's first job after college was with Henry Kissinger at Kissinger Associates

Thanks for that.
Kissinger is a poisonous old man -
who has way too much - self appointed - power.
Pure and simple.

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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 08:10 PM by starscape

Originally posted by john124

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by john124

YouTube Link

Thank you john.

no problem.

Twitter messages talk of brutality much worse and bodies beaten bloody unconscious or dead being dragged away to warehouses. This is turning into a catastrophe of a huge magnitude. The woman in the video is right, at some point the west will have to do something. If Russia veto a resolution at the UN tell them to go to hell.

Something tells me America would have been better if John Mccain was president. It's not like I don't like Obama, I just don't think he fully understands this Islamic regime yet.

IMO the deaths could be over a thousand already, maybe more.

Are you serious? Are you saying that because the Iranian government is 'cracking down' on protesters that the US/UN should invade their country?

Why didn't the UN invade the US when the US fired on protesters in Iraq? www.commondreams.org... (not the only time this behavior was documented.)

Why hasn't the US been invaded for its brutal attacks on Pakistan. They happen week after week, dozens of dead civilians each time but I don't hear Americans (or many other nations for that matter) standing up to their government or insisting the the US be invaded because of this activity. news.bbc.co.uk...

What is wrong with you people? Look to your own nation--fix that--before you insist on meddling in other's nations.

Oh, wait. At least the protests have been allowed to occur n Iran. In the US peaceful protests are now defined as 'low-level terrorism'.

That said, Kissinger is a monster. Sweet of him to let the game slip, so we know what's going on. *facepalm*

reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 08:34 PM by Unlimitedpossibilities

reply to post by Erasurehead

Yeah. I agree. Although the reptilian conspiracy is not the popular view, I have always thought Zbigniew Brzezinski was a great portrayal of one.

Both Kissinger and Brzezinski were Nation Security "Advisors". Yeah they advised alright....

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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 09:18 PM by TheBandit795

reply to post by Electro38

He was Bushes secret advisor, and now he gives the orders to Obama's national security advisor. He's in the CFR. He's a Bildeberger. He, together with his partner in crime, Brzezinski have worked for one of the co-owners of the federal reserve, David Rockefeller for years. He is more powerful than the president of the U.S.A.. I think we should take him seriously.

reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 09:24 PM by Signals

Unbelievable.....the Iranian people have allowed this regime for what, 30 years??? Now they are fed up with it? They are on their own. Talk of the US doing anything with Iran are ridiculous. We need to worry about our own problems, period. Besides, North Korea is next in line for the whuppin', right???

Kissinger is an old fool...someone needs to pull a Daryl Hannah on the old fool....and poison the fish!

reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 10:52 PM by Anonymous Avatar

Kissinger can take his ugly fat a* over there with his other fat and ugly business buddies who want to take over the world and do it themselves.

I wish Kissinger would go hunting with Cheney.

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 09:50 AM by Amagnon

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
it's not the evil american empire
it's just an evil empire

the evil people are individuals that do not represent the general view of americans

I usually refer to the government/scum as the US and the people as Americans.

Americans have my sympathy for the current economic hardships both now and in the future, and also for being ruled by the most evil regime in history.

As for the collapse of the US dollar - it can;t come soon enough - if it leaves the scum without the military power to impose their will on the rest of the world, then I am all for it. However, that would cause hardship for many people, but I see it as unavoidable - and I actually don't think it would have the desired effect of disenfranchising the scum.

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 10:23 AM by xoxo stacie

I think that what many are forgetting is that Mr Kissinger is/has been an Ambassador to Russia.
Now Iran's oil is oil etc. that goes to Russia and China NOT the USA. So if anyone is going to step in and put a stop to all of this it will be THEM and NOT THE USA/UK etc. They will NOT allow us in unless they need some help.(very doubtful) It is their stomping grounds plain and simple. They have been trading with Iran for some time now.
Now whether or not Mr. Kissinger is drumming up support for Russia and China is a different story all together but one that must be considered.

Over many decades now the ME has been basically divided up into section's that support what ever developed country with their natural resources that come in short supply on their own respective continents. Stepping in on another's supply is going to make all Hades break loose. Being that most are coming out of Iraq and/or moving over to Afghanistan and Pakistan means that the Russians and Chinese are on their own to sort this one out or let it get to a level that reaches genocide.
Technically speaking it would be easier for them both if it did. They would be able to come in and save the day with aid etc. and help the people. Thereby giving them the upper hand over the standing government there in Iran as it is. Once they get that it will be much cheaper and easier for them both to exploit the resource's for their own gain.

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 10:43 AM by dariousg

reply to post by Amagnon

The problem is that we have to educate the people first. There are still so many people that think of Iraqi's as terrorists and definitely think the Iranians are. Just because of the portrayal of their culture and religion and leadership. They won't bat an eye when they see a young female student stopping to witness history in her own country get shot down. They think good riddance. It's pathetic really. I have at least gotten my immediate family to start thinking of these people as that. People. And innocent for that matter.

There are many others that are still looking at these countries as the enemy and that they are simply evil. It's really sad. I try to talk to them and they simply rant on about how George Bush was the best thing to ever happen to us. Hell, my nephew runs around with an "I love Haliburton" shirt! I haven't ever known a bunch of more brainwashed people. The sad thing is that they are the nicest people to be around and will do anything for their family. They just don't have a clue when it comes to the true politics behind the scenes and these foreign people.

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 12:42 PM by Gorman91

reply to post by SpaceMonkeys

If I may be so keen to ask, how do you expect anyone to win in the event of a 3-way war between fully prepared powers? The only reason we won WW2 and WW1 was because we were the only freaking fighting force left! everyone else was dying off. Now we are dying off. Exactly where do you expect victory in the event of WW3? All 3 nations, already having problems with their people, would cripple and collapse. Then the military would take over, and in all 3 nations, probably fight amongst each other. The Midwest just told the feds that they consider the direction of the government criminal and any further advancement into things like trade and cap systems will be viewed as a deceleration of war. In WW2, if a part of the US told FDR they consider his actions a decleration of war against their state, you'd probably be arrested as governor and replaced with no word from the people. Today if they try it, the supporters would fight the police.

So again, I ask you, how exactly are 3 superpowers that are already critically injured from within suppose to fight each other and still have a functioning legitimate government through it all.

What, are you planning to have a cripple fight for WW3? No one wins dude.
www.youtube.com...

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reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 02:21 PM by Sestias

I don't believe the U.S. should meddle in Iran's affairs, but rather allow them to determine their own government and society. I do not think we should employ cowboy diplomacy and rush in to establish a democracy if the Iranians don't do it first.

That said, if you look at the situation coldly, you have to admit that a regime change and the destabilization of Iran would be greatly to the benefit of U.S. and its allies. As long as Iranians are fighting each other they are not nuking Israel or provoking World War III.

This is undoubtedly what many western leaders are thinking. Kissinger just happens to be the one to voice those sentiments. He is not a drooling old man, he just needs to be more subtle.

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 02:31 PM by Kombatt98

reply to post by Gorman91

USA won WW2 , singlehandly , this is the biggest load of BS i ever read .

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 02:52 PM by Gorman91

reply to post by Kombatt98

Of course not alone. But with allies who were already on the edge. Forget not that at it's worst, Hitler was just about ready to take over England and end the war in Europe, devoting full power to the East.

The US simply had the time to ready itself for war and be a refresher for the allies. Without them the West would fall. With them they won. Alone they could not win, as English resources were the only thing allowing the US to even have a presence in Europe. But the thing is, if England fell, the US would have no way to act in Europe. Hitler would have a strait line from south to east to fight.

The fact remains that the US is what allowed the allies to win. Today this is not true. There is no nation out there able to "ready" for war while the rest of the world fights. So if the CIA is doing this, they are essentially wanting the US to die. They are essentially pushing the destruction of all superpowers. The US cannot enter a WW3 and come out victorious in the current situation.

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reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 07:48 PM by max.is.awake

well thats not really fair considering the CIA is going to make sure that revolution does fail....