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Man killed in D.C. Metro crash ordered jets above Capitol on 9/11

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posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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If these deaths aren't connect to the 9/11 truth movement then I am officially the living version of captain crunch.

Buy my cereal




posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 12:30 AM
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VP Joe Biden rides the metro when he goes home to Delaware...


Uh, really? Wanna check those 'facts', mate?

When you do, I'd sure like to find out if it's the Red or Green line to Delaware!



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 12:39 AM
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This is no surprise. I'm sure we'll see plenty of people connected to 911 getting bumped off, I mean dying soon. They have to make sure there's no one left that might talk.

Star and flag, spread the love.



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
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VP Joe Biden rides the metro when he goes home to Delaware...


Uh, really? Wanna check those 'facts', mate?

When you do, I'd sure like to find out if it's the Red or Green line to Delaware!


Yep, it might have been metro from union station to capitol hill, but I bet it was Amtrak from Delaware to DC.



Back on topic though... I'm surprised to see the amount of people who feel strongly that this was connected to 911 by something other than chance.

If that is the case... then how do you explain this story being published? Isn't it part and parcel to assume that the MSM is in on the act?

[edit on 24-6-2009 by HunkaHunka]



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 03:50 AM
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I'd just to point out that even if you accept that some deaths were down to conspiracy, (which I do), it doesn't mean theat all deaths are to be attributed to the same cause. I'm waiting for further information.


[edit on 24-6-2009 by rich23]



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 04:49 AM
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Man killed in D.C. Metro crash ordered jets above Capitol on 9/11

"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A former commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard -- who ordered jets over the Capitol amid the September 11, 2001, terror attacks -- was among those killed in a transit train crash in Washington this week, authorities said Tuesday."

"On the morning of the September 11 attacks, Wherley, commander of the 113th Fighter Wing at Andrews Air Force Base, deployed pilots with orders from then-Vice President Dick Cheney to protect the White House and take out any aircraft that threatened the Capitol, according to the 9/11 Commission Report.

"They said challenge them, try to turn them away; if they don't turn away, use whatever force is necessary to keep them from hitting buildings downtown," Wherley told the Washington Post in a 2002 interview."

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-When you have seen time and time again, important figures of political note perish in rare vehicle accidents such as this train disaster, and so called aircraft "accidents"... You stop believing in coincidence.

related newslink: Computer Failure May Have Caused D.C. Crash

This man took orders from Cheney. This man knows the truth or at least a major part of the puzzle. He may have ordered jets to shoot down Flight 93.

Computer failure? Sounds very suspicious to me. I would not be surprised if the man was a loose end that has just been tied up.



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 07:55 AM
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I checked with the OP, he won't mind.

Just once more on this issue; you said:


You obviously have not looked much in to what exactly Hani Hanjour did, and I have no intention of doing your research for you, so I won't provide any information in my post.


You obviously aren't a pilot, and you've taken the BS propaganda that's been fed to you, exagerrated for you, and tied up in a neat bow of hyperbole and innuendo for you, and accepted it as gospel.

You have no need to do any research for me. I know exactly what the CT have been saying about Hanjour, and I'm telling you it's rubbish.

For everyone else, the allegation is that Hani made an "impossible" maneuver on AAL 77 on 9/11. Well, this 'impossible maneuver' consisted of turning the airplane, while descending at the same time. Yup!! That's it.

I won't clog this thread with any more graphics, such as the track of the airplane before hitting the Pentagon, you can see those elsewhere. But, for all of you non-pilots out there, it is dead easy to see a prominent point on the ground, fly past that point for a minute or so, then start a turn around until you can see it again in the windshield, and begin lining up on it. The CT'ers would have you think Hani was doing 500MPH the entire time -- he wasn't. He flew past the Pentagon for a few miles, began a right turn which took him another few miles out (because of something called the radius of the turn) then, when he saw the target again, began to descend and aim....the descent portion is where the speed built up, until impact.

A jet builds up speed very, very quickly when going downhill, especially with throttles not at idle.

A military C-130 saw the 757, they were five miles apart at that time, the 757 was about 7 or 8 miles West of the Pentagon. The C-130 pilots saw the 757 all the way, saw it impact the Pentagon. I've heard the ATC tapes, they're available, and even laymen can comprehend the parts I'm referring to.

The C-130 (call sign 'GOFER06') pilot said, and I quote: "...and, uhh, this is GOFER06, it looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon, sir."



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 08:16 AM
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But, for all of you non-pilots out there, it is dead easy to see a prominent point on the ground, fly past that point for a minute or so, then start a turn around until you can see it again in the windshield, and begin lining up on it.


I am a pilot, and I can say that hitting a point on the ground with great accuracy at any speed is difficult, especially for someone inexperienced. You seem to be pretty knowledgeable, so how would this pilot have accounted for "ground effect" which gets more pronounced with greater speed. Pilots never touchdown where they expect even at landing speeds and configurations. They always drift a little past that point. The higher their speed, the more their drift, and it often results in "go-arounds." If this guy picked a point as you claim, and he pointed the plane at it, which is not hard at all, and he increased speed by losing altitude, he would have over shot the Pentagon by a long shot!

Back on topic, there is no way any decent assassin or operative crashes a Metro Train to kill someone! It is far too imprecise! Too many variables, too much chance of the person surviving. Too much collateral damage and attention drawn! This was a terrible accident. If they wanted this guy dead, they would have done it years ago, it would have been a single vehicle accident, or a random mugging, or a skiing accident, or a reaction to seafood. There are much easier, precise, and less conspicuous ways!

My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims in DC.



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 08:50 AM
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Hah say what you want but the Bush League is still hard at work dotting their T's and crossing their eyes making sure the truth doesnt come out. And I said this before but I am going to say it again: even if you or you or her or him or they or them do not believe the Bush League had anything to do with 911 IT STILL HAPPENED ON THEIR WATCH WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US FROM THAT BULLFECES and they should be held responsible for their OBVIOUS NEGLECTIGNORANCEUNPATRIOTISM why is that such a hard pill to swallow they didnt do their job they should have been arrested on 9 11 tried on 9 12 and hung on 9 13 NO OTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT GUYS wake up for your childrens sake max.is.awake whats taking you so long?


 
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posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 09:32 AM
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I agree with you, getready, about it being quite farfetched that the Metro accident was anything else but a tragic accident. The photos I've seen indicate that the stopped train was out of view, around a curve, and the computers failed, and the operator of the following train had little time to react, but she tried to stop!

About the flying part, you're referring to a light airplane, at slow landing speeds, likely with flaps? I'm talking about a jet, clean configuration, at high speeds. Ground effect is not a substantial influence in those circumstances. You can see many videos of the B757 airplanes performing very high-speed low passes at airshows, just search your favorite Internet site.



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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I personally feel the TPTB are specifically sending a message to all the others who have insider info.

Basically STFU or esle this will be you.



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by AllSeeingI


-When you have seen time and time again, important figures of political note perish in rare vehicle accidents such as this train disaster, and so called aircraft "accidents"... You stop believing in coincidence.



Personally I think that if there was a Metro accident that DIDN'T actually kill someone of high rank connected with 9/11, I would be astonished.

I mean it's DC for goodness sake...

[edit on 24-6-2009 by HunkaHunka]



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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It feels stupid even pointing some of these things out but here goes.

"Death by transit train" is not something that I would imagine the CIA favors as a reliable means of assasination.

How would you know where he would sit, what if he missed his train (oops - sorry, we'll have to crash another one tomorrow).

Come on guys, even those tinfoil hats can't keep out the stupidity of this one.



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Ok so let the conspiracy theories commence...

What does this mean about the 9/11 conspiracy? Is someone upset he was able to scramble those jets?

Or is this simply what it looks like... a tragedy for this man and his family, and a loss for our country's defense...


Hmm, conspiracy? Hmm, anything to do with 9/11 coverup?

I would agree that CFO's tied to banks hanging themselves, two women meeting with Obama about 9/11 then dying in the plane crash in Buffalo, Bio scientist by the hundred dying under odd circumstances and people like Dr. Jonathan Reed having thier identity complete whiped off the face of the earth as if he never existed is tragic and very, very sad... Great Thread!



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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I will only believe the assassination theory if someone can positively place multiple related targets on the same train. Otherwise, there are certainly more viable elimination options available to the experts.







 
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