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Class Warfare -- A message from Noam Chomsky

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posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 03:22 PM
I was listening to the radio while waiting for my little girl to get out of school. The guy that was talking made a very good point. He said people in low skilled jobs are making 40% less than what they were working for in the early 80's due to several factors. One of the factors He claimed was inflation and the other was illegal immigration. If You have more unskilled laborers it lowers the wages of those workers because employers don't have to work hard at finding people. I work in a semi skilled profession and its very hard to find people to work my job because I am away from home 8 to 9 months a year. I make good money at well over 100k a year but I have to pay for it with the sacrifice of being away from my family. I can also attest that a man whom made 60k a year in early 2000 was in the same boat as someone making 100k a year to day. Inflation is a bitch but its a way the rich can steal from the lower classes and no body realizes it...

The worst part about it is one person warned people during the election but the American people did not listen and so now We are stuck with a POS traitor for prez. I especially like how the elite are getting the peons to fight each other over shrinking wages and jobs when they are the ones causing it in the first place. If the left and right would ever waken up and realize the top 1% are the ones screwing them over and the politicians are their minions then I'd hate to be on top...

I so wish people would wake up but I seriously don't think its going to happen because everyone is looking out for themselves and its never more evident now with the left bitching about healthcare.

posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:09 AM
This thread seems to be more relevant today than it was when I made it.. Especially the bit about militias, and focusing on conspiracies rather than big business' "upwards" redistribution of wealth.

Maybe people will stop listening to the rich when they try to tell you, through their propaganda outlets, what's best for America. They are not worried about you -- they're worried about taking as much as they can from you. That's how profit is made. If they cared about you, the boss would be making approximately the same salary as all his/her employees. Is that how it is where you work?

Well, his salary has to come from somewhere, and basically where it's coming from is everybody else's paycheck.

I hope you all enjoy this lecture.

posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:20 AM
I'm surprised this thread isn't full of nitwits foaming at the mouth screaming "HURR COMMUNIST DERR".

....Political Madness section...I'm impressed.

posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:44 AM
reply to post by elfie

Link did not work....

Still if you count the "company" unions in China producing for Walmart....

watch this amazing expose!

Santa's Workshop

posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:53 AM
reply to post by Kaytagg

I've read most of Chomsky's politics books. I spent several years in the early 1990s reading his work. It was deeply transformative -- Chomsky admits his writing style is "turgid" but he explains that the content he is analyzing necessitates a certain form of writing.

So after I read "At War with Asia" my book mysteriously disappeared from one of those free Christian coffeehouse cafes -- where I was sneakingly getting some quiet. I then realized that "At War with Asia" was out of print!

I emailed Chomsky and this was in 1999 or so. He responded -- Chomsky told me that it was difficult to get his books back in print because they were not that well read. I said yes that people love to use his name but if they read his books it's usually the lighter, more conversational, interview books. He agreed and pointed out that in the 1930s and 40s there would be a designated worker who would read to the rest of the workers while they all worked.

Anyway as for unions I've been a union steward and have done grievances and been disciplined for being a steward, etc. I tend to think that workers in the U.S. are anti-union because they don't like the dues and more importantly see that the "union managers" strike deals with the business management.

Consider the Hormel p-9 strike in Minnesota -- that was a really amazing wake up call exposing the corruption of union management. Here's the documentary on it:

That was a clear case of class warfare in action.

posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 02:53 PM

Originally posted by Berens
I have often heard him described as a communist.

As mentioned already he is a Libertarian Socialist. Nothing to do with what we have been conditioned to believe what socialism, libertarianism or even communism is.

Socialism is 'the workers ownership of the means of production'. A movement derived by the working class as a direct opposition to private ownership of resources (capitalism). (Nothing to do with Russia, China, or welfare/health care, or the media's and most peoples incorrect use of the term).

Libertarian is a term that was exclusive to Anarchists at one time in history, starting in Spain in the 1930's, and then after also by the labour movement. It's simply a term meaning non-authoritarian. (Noting to do with the American 'libertarian' party, or their modern definition of the term).

That is the true traditional definition of 'Anarchism', a non-authoritarian system that is controlled from the bottom not the top, by you and me, the workers. Anything else such as 'Anarcho-capitalism' is not really Anarchism at all but just another form of private ownership of your resources, which is no better than government itself. The real grief Anarchist have isn't with government per se, it's with private ownership of resources which the government are a part of maintaining by controlling the workers.

Anarchists are not completely against leadership and control, only coercive leadership and control, which capitalism is by the very nature of the political system that forms around it.

posted on Apr, 18 2010 @ 08:53 PM
I need 20 posts to be able to inform you of the truth...
I have never heard of chomsky until now thank you for the enlightenment

posted on Apr, 18 2010 @ 09:17 PM
Here's anarchism rearing its head through the mayor of Cleveland!!

Cleveland goes Mondragon! Chomsky would be proud of Cleveland but such were the circumstances.

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