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John Roberts - Anchor, CNN's American Morning
Filed under: Iran
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be sworn in for a second term sometime between July 26 and August 19, state-run media reported Tuesday. Many Iranians who have disputed the official outcome of the June 12 vote have taken to the streets to protest the results.
Reza Pahlavi, the former crown prince of Iran, says there are reports some security forces have been joining protesters in the streets of Tehran. Pahlavi’s father was the shah of Iran who was deposed in the Iranian Revolution of 1979. He spoke to John Robe
John Roberts: The Guardian Council has ruled that the election results will stand and if there were irregularities they are not enough to swing the outcome of the election. There will be no new elections. What do you expect the reaction on the ground will be?
Reza Pahlavi: As we have all monitored the evolution of the situation, the supreme leader who has always been the final decider has drawn pretty much the line in the sand last Friday. And as such, I think the campaign that we have seen is now moving towards the direction of defiance and is going to be a resistance that will have to be sustained if indeed there’s any hope for democracy in my homeland one day.
Roberts: There’s debate as well over how much support the United States should give the protesters and the reform movement there in Iran. The White House is worried that coming out too strong in support could do more harm than good. What do you think?
Pahlavi: Well John, this is beyond a camp or another. This is not a question of election results anymore. This has become a defiance against a regime that has denied every right to its citizenry. When the chants on the streets in Tehran and other major cities in Iran and across the country are turning to “Death to Khamenei,” I don’t think it could get as clear as that back home. The regime is now under question. The legitimacy is lost. The legitimacy now stands with the people. But there are also matters of ethics and moral responsibility, if I may say also. Something that the regime is trying to create [is] confusion between what could be considered as interference as opposed to standing for human rights and justice.
Originally posted by LostNemesis
Just like the Democrats opposed Bush and his wars and spending, and bailouts, blah blah.... They promised to NOT be Bush... That was all they needed to do, because people were upset.
I think it's scary that the Iranians are fighting to be heard, and one person (possibly evil) steps out in front and claims to be the mascott of the movement.
You are so right, that out of chaos, comes something worse. I feel and fear for the Iranian people. I hope they get what they are fighting for.
I hope they know that the world is watching them, AND we have the deepest respect for them, no matter what our views are.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Nope, I don't believe it at all. Your sources are bogus man. No chance at all any of it is true. There, how's that for an opinion?
Originally posted by LostNemesis
reply to post by TrueAmerican
I feel his (err? Her?) sources are as good as anyone's, right now. Everything is bogus when it comes to Iran. I mean, the place is in chaos right now. The government is intentionally trying to keep the rest of the world from knowing what is going on.
All we really have to go on at this point, is what BBC sneaks into the internet, what real Iranian bloggers post... AND what the disinfo bloggers post.
Read it all, and think about it... Weed out whatever you feel necessary. Right now it's tough to know what is going on ANYWHERE, much less an entire country that is in chaos.
Originally posted by AgentX09
Even if forces were trying to bring the former prince to power how could they succeed?He would never be accepted by the Iranian people.In fact i dont think he would make it from the airport alive.
Roberts: What do you think the White House should do? What should the White House be saying right now?
Pahlavi: I think my compatriots expect, especially from the President of the United States… I mean, after all, America has been perceived by many around the world as the flag bearer of freedom. And for its light to be the faintest in terms of advocating liberty would be a bit odd. My compatriots understand the sensitivity and the shrewdness of the president and the administration here in terms of not in fact giving an excuse to the regime. And we applaud that and we appreciate that.
However, as I said earlier, it is important for people to feel that nobody shies away when it comes to the matter of defending people’s sovereign rights to self-determination and free speech. And I don’t think on that account this regime has anything to say about that, not only vis-à-vis the U.S. president but any other person, who after all don’t only represent themselves but their respective nations. And I have never seen in the past 30 years as an Iranian so much solidarity from the average man and woman on the streets of so many countries around the world for our cause.
Roberts: So Mr. Pahlavi, you’re saying that the security forces are out there cracking people’s .s one moment but then they’re going home, getting changed and joining the demonstrators? It’s an extraordinary claim. Where’s the proof of that?
Pahlavi: Well John, these are the reports that I have been receiving, not just last week alone, but this has been going on for quite a while. Understand one thing, it’s not that complicated to understand. Most of the more senior members of the Revolutionary Guard, and I’m not talking about that section which is committed to the regime and benefit from it. I’m not saying everybody’s against the regime. Of course not. But a great number of these Revolutionary Guards – they were my age at the time of the revolution, okay? They went to the war front. They fought a war against an invading enemy in the case of the Iran-Iraq war.
They gave their lives to protect our homeland and our people. They believed in the message of the revolution as everybody was dreaming for betterment of the situation. But when it comes to a point where you treat your own people like this, there are many – there are many among the security forces that say this is not what we wanted. This is not what it was all about. We cannot stand for this anymore. So you can imagine that it becomes a choice between turning the guns on people who could be your own relatives as opposed to following instructions. It’s a matter of time before security forces of any regime that is totalitarian or repressive have a moment of conscience, which has already occurred.
Originally posted by Desolate Cancer
This is stupid, though he has the right to speak his mind, he does nothing but harm the movement.
The Iranian people like all people of the world can be naive and sheep like but they are not retarded enough to have this clown be reinstated.
This movement when you see the people in street is about mousavi and reform (that what they chant), not about replacing one piece of garbage with another piece of garbage.
Originally posted by Desolate Cancer
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I disagree, they actually do want social reform but dont rish speaking it openly since that will be a direct challenge to the whole theocratic system and then even the moderates would be against them since that would mean that the whole power structure would be changed.
Its a step by step process first place the moderates and get economic reforms then go after an overhaul of the system.
So yes though you are right about the message most are pushing for is opening of relation with rest of the world and economic reform there is that underlying desire for a different form of government.