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9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public

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posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 01:04 PM
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hmmmm, how convenient!

The fact that ground zero was declared a crime scene shortly after the incident is disturbing to him??? He was dispatched to the site after the first plane hit the tower is disturbing to him. Why are those events disturbing to him, they seem very reasonable to me.

Anyway, I'll surely keep an eye on this story and I am very interested in what experts have to say about his footage.



You changed the context of his quote! The fact that it was declared a crime scene, BUT all the evidence was removed or destroyed very quickly. The second part of that statement is what makes it odd. I have seen crime scenes in busy traffic areas locked up for days for one person injured or killed!

Your other reference was out of context also! He was dispatched while the MSM was still calling it a small plane impact. This happens multiple times per day and FEMA never gets involved. He also brought up the fact that it took 10 days to mobilize FEMA after Katrina, and that was with almost a weeks advance notice, and massive city-wide damage!

So, you can be skeptical if you wish, but do not change the meaning of someone's words by taking them out of context. That puts you on the same level as the MSM and mudslinging politicians!!



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posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Soloist
People like this should hang.

If 9/11 turns out to be an inside job, should those hired by the government to help squash 9/11 conspiracy theories hang too?



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 01:27 PM
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some people asked why don't he just put out the tapes and be done with it .
evidently somebody didn't read the whole story he has twin daughter that he is trying to protect too and keep out of harms way.
it is bad to lose your wife but to lose yours daughters too. i think he is just waiting for the right time and place.



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 01:48 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. His name is very similar to author Kurt Vonnegut. Is that maybe why it sounds familiar to you, too?



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 01:51 PM
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wheres drapesncrafts at? he should be weighing in on this one anytime now. this one might have him shaken in his booties.



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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hey! there is also a t.v. personality Kurt Sontag you guys could be confusing him w/.



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by getreadyalready
 

wheres drapesncrafts at?


Thats pretty good..Got a chuckle out of me..

These video's could be a very big nail..Or they could be nothing new..



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by sueloujo
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He doesnt need legal aid becuase he didnt go to jail...so he has not motive whatsoever for this except maybe to show the truth.


Actually, he was incarcerated for at least 4 months but then his case was dismissed.



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 01:58 PM
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This excert is a lie, he says it took FEMA 10 days to deploy to New Orleans, when in fact FEMA was on alert and stocking up for deployment days before the tropical storm hit. Number one thing to look for is when to many little small lies add up, you know its a hoax. Also he said that he was told a small plane hit the tower, well I was up watching the news and knew 5 min after it hit that it was a commercial plane, so maybe he was inept and misheard or misread his bosses intent but thank god his bosses were on top of it. Also Pier 92 is a staging area for FEMA year round, so this idiot doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. He is taking little odd tidbits and trying to over emphasize them with lies. Another truther, just like that guy who shot up the holocaust museum. We should be on alert to these loons, they will be the next terror attack on US soil.

[edit on 23-6-2009 by alienj]



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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I remember early live news reports stating they believed it was a small plane. I recall some of the witnesses on the ground being interviewed also said they thought it was a small plane.



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:05 PM
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I watched the video almost immediately on the news and it was a commercial plane, they had a new york news crew that was near ground zero doing a live broadcast, so they had the news almost asap. Yes maybe some radio stations reported it that way, but Fox News was on top of it, and got the info out pretty quick. Its amazing how after a few years people can begin to change the story to fit their needs and lies. The Truth seems to be irrelevant unless it falls into their view of what they want the truth to be.

[edit on 23-6-2009 by alienj]



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:11 PM
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There was no video of the initial hit being broadcast anywhere before the second hit. No one watching on television (and apparently many of the eyewitnesses on the ground) had any indication at all of the size of the first plane that hit until the second one flew into the towers... and at that, it was only confirmation that at least the second hit was from a large aircraft.



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Abbby
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I remember early live news reports stating they believed it was a small plane. I recall some of the witnesses on the ground being interviewed also said they thought it was a small plane.

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Yes some news outlets reported incorrectly that a small plane had hit but the government knew within minutes that it was a commercial jet. And if ole Kurt was dispatched by the Govt, they would have known enough not to ID it as a small plane.

This is worth keeping an eye on but there is much about his account that doesn't sound right...



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:19 PM
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S & F for you. Thank you for posting this.




posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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And it was soooo disturbing to Cheney,Rummy,& friends that despite knowing for at least an hour and a half that the country was under attack that no one decided to evacuate the Pentagon! Bush is recorded on tv as saying he thought the first plane was "just a terrible accident", which was the rhetoric of almost EVERY official from that day.Which were lies of course, but can you see the hypocricy of the gatekeepers of the official faux story? Funny how Cheney was seen in the PEOC bunker by 9:20am by Mineta and Clark but he and the commission place him there at 10am, after the attack on the Pentagon was long over. And of course Rummy and Brigadier General Montague Windfield both had rookie Captains replace them during the attacks timelines, only to return when the attacks were over. Cheney recently let it slip that he WAS in the bunker/PEOC by 9:20am when he just did his public speaking run. Oops!!!!!Just like all the other coincidental slips by Rummy,Tim Roemer,etc.




Originally posted by venividivici
Looks interesting but I have my doubts.

A picture of someone lurking behind a bush is not evidence that you are being harasses or followed. Even if he was being followed it could be for something completely unrelated to his 911 "secrets".


Soon after that conversation, my house was “seized”, the locks were changed, and men were observed by neighbors entering my house, though there is no record in the court of their entry,


hmmmm, how convenient!

The fact that ground zero was declared a crime scene shortly after the incident is disturbing to him??? He was dispatched to the site after the first plane hit the tower is disturbing to him. Why are those events disturbing to him, they seem very reasonable to me.

Anyway, I'll surely keep an eye on this story and I am very interested in what experts have to say about his footage.





posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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Wow like I said, people like yourself like to change the truth around to suit your needs, There is video of the first plane hitting the trade towers, you can youtube it if you want too. It was reported long before the 2nd plane hit the trade tower, I had time to get a cup of coffee and wake my wife up before the second plane hit. But none of this will mean anything to someone who wants to twist the truth and believe lies. It was a New story about firefighters as they heard the planes go overhead and if I am correct it was a live news broadcast at the time in New York city
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Soloist
9/11 Videographer Re-Charged For Wife's Shooting Death

I would believe nothing of what this guy says, sounds to me like he is simply repeating a lot of the old and tired "truther" mantras in an attempt to distract from him being wanted for killing his wife.

He's hoping people will flock to him for a cause, even if it's completely bunk. And people will, of course because they WANT to believe, not because this wanted murderer has any actual evidence.


People like this should hang.



>> Should he hang like the DC Madame, or just fall in the parking lot 4 stories like Bush's bankster buddy?

I'm sure we will find more coincidences. But you don't find it odd that we get murder charges, right after a celebration on the one guy who shoots video of the 9/11 Crime Scene?

If he is being set up, then of course they are going to smear his name. With the Trillions of dollars at stake with the false war on terror -- I'm sure they even have some money available to hire people to blog and make fun of anyone who starts making too much sense.

The reason we here repetition from "Truther Mantras" is because, when things are true -- often there are more than one person corroborating that evidence.

I'm pretty tired of throwing out the litany of facts in this case that don't add up. Guillianni got a $100,000 campaign donation to relocated his emergency headquarters in Building 7.

Apparently, the billions in Gold Bullion somehow disappeared from building 7.

It was also a lucky coincidence that Building 7 was the place where the FBI records for the case against the Bush family for more than $17 Billion in Federal Notes was held. They were found guilty, but without the evidence, they go scott free. This is a true story -- but google it on your own.

The really wacky thing is thinking you can have a kerosene fire, from two plane collisions, drop 3 buildings designed to withstand 3 direct hits from large airplanes. Steel buildings burn, and then drop at free-fall speed. Not possible.

And all the nonsense about insulation getting stripped off -- how does that happen without removing all the windows? I was just on an aircraft carrier, and they didn't have insulation on the steel -- it was a WW II Vessel. They didn't worry about munitions burning the steel. The reason for the insulation is to keep the metal from transmitting heat away and starting other fires.

So all the Pro-Bush Government conspiracy theories, that make it seem reasonable are the most far-fetched nonsense.

And after all the Downing Street Memos, the blizzard of lies -- we have more more poor slob corroborating evidence. He might be a mis-informer. But I really don't care, because we don't need more evidence. It's clear there was a coverup. And the only people who could do that was the Bush Crime Family. It's clear there were charges set, and only people with access to the building could do that.

Of the 17 guys with box cutters who allegedly did this -- which we discovered THAT day, when our administration was warned about 50 times -- 6 are still alive.


>> I'm sure that if I had more information, I'd be guilty of a crime as well.



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:22 PM
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Just wanted to add...

I went ahead and contacted the registrars office at UOC. They do have record of him. Kurt Sonnenfeld born 12/18/62. He graduated in 87 with a double major, the ones listed in the article. Gives this a little more credence. Going to see if I can get anything out of FEMA.



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by alienj
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I watched the video almost immediately on the news and it was a commercial plane, they had a new york news crew that was near ground zero doing a live broadcast, so they had the news almost asap. Yes maybe some radio stations reported it that way, but Fox News was on top of it, and got the info out pretty quick. Its amazing how after a few years people can begin to change the story to fit their needs and lies. The Truth seems to be irrelevant unless it falls into their view of what they want the truth to be.

[edit on 23-6-2009 by alienj]


I was watching it live on TV as well, and the reporters were discounting the eyewitnesses and reporting that it was a small plane even though the eyewitnesses were stating it was a large jet!

So I guess that argument has no solution, yes people were immediately saying it was a large jet, AND yes the news was still reporting it was a small plane all the way until the second impact!

I was also at Hurlburt Field near Ft. Walton Beach, FL that day when President Bush landed there and made his televised announcement to the country. All the press reported that he was at a base in Northern Louisiana, but we were ordered to stay indoors for almost two hours and I watched AF1 and several escorts land, taxi, and eventually take off again!

Not saying this guy is any more or less truthful than the MSM, just that the television does lie, and that reporters do skew the news to their own beliefs!



posted on Jun, 23 2009 @ 02:26 PM
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What a wild rant, is this something canned you have that you just copy and paste anytime a discussion on 9/11 comes up, doesn't there come a time when you just get tired of regurgitating the same non proven reteric again and again. Its time we let the hate, like seen by the holocaust shooter, go and move on.




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