Originally posted by semperfortis

All Marines are taught that there are 3 types of orders that are never obeyed

1. Illegal
2. Unethical
3. Immoral

Can't speak for the other branches, but Marines are taught this in Boot

I don't recall hearing much about it in recruit training; maybe they didn't feel it needed to be emphasized as much in the Navy. Makes sense, though - we didn't generally see much in he way of guns....

One thing, though. Just wondering how that list jibes with the Oliver North / Iran/Contra thing. I know, black sheep, but just wondering - didn't ask many Marines their opinion at the time.

Originally posted by spiritwomyn
Was told recently of a marine in Montana who said they were being trained to prepare to take Americans guns and to show no mercy even in killing women and children.

I've seen this claim several times over the years, usually coming from some survivalist fringe who thinks the gub'mint's coming over the hills in big black helicopters any day now.

I tend to doubt the veracity of the claim. Since the first time I saw it, in the early 90s on a bbs, I would think that if that was the plan, they would have gotten around to doing it by now.

The Military really isn't what many people think. If you have never served in the Military then you have no idea. When I came here to this site years ago before enlisting I had some of the same thoughts some of the users here on ATS have. However it's not like that.

The military is about taking care of your battle buddies to your left and your right, and the people you are protecting. The NCO's constantly are training other soldiers to take care of one another, and enforce it. There is not any type of brainwashing that I have seen. Atleast not in the Army.

Originally posted by semperfortis
Just a note...

All Marines are taught that there are 3 types of orders that are never obeyed

1. Illegal
2. Unethical
3. Immoral

Can't speak for the other branches, but Marines are taught this in Boot

Semper

Gung ho