This reminds me of the new Battlestar Galactica series where all the civilians were pissed at the military types - I can't remember the specific episode, but its funny to see how fiction parallels real life a lot.

Most of the people I talk to will side with the consititution.

In no way would the army "follow orders". it's what makes our army separate from the norm.

As a soldier in the United States Army my duty is to follow my orders as well as think on my own and follow the seven Army Values. Loyalty Duty Respect Honor Integrity and Personal Courage.

Loyalty
Bear true faith and allegiance to the U.S. CONSTITUTION, the Army, and other soldiers.
Be loyal to the NATION and its heritage.

Duty
Fulfill your obligations.
Accept responsibility for your own actions and those entrusted to your care.
Find opportunities to improve oneself for the good of the group.

Respect
Rely upon the golden rule.
How we consider others reflects upon each of us, both personally and as a professional organization.

Selfless Service
Put the welfare of the NATION, the Army, and your subordinates before your own.
Selfless service leads to organizational teamwork and encompasses discipline, self-control and faith in the system.

Honor
Live up to all the Army values.

Integrity
Do what is right, legally and morally.
Be willing to do what is right even when no one is looking.
It is our "moral compass" an inner voice.

Personal Courage
Our ability to face fear, danger, or adversity, both physical and moral courage.

In my normal everyday life I do my best to abide by the seven army values. I try not to have a big ego and always morally do the right thing. I know that I would never harm an American Citizen nor would my fellow soldiers. If it's against the United States Constitution or not morally right I will not do it, nor would any other United States Soldier.

I work for you the people of the United States of America, not terrorists.

[edit on 7/2/2009 by jca2005]

Enough mils. will fire on civis. This is one reason for desensitizing violence of video games. Training and densitization. Very clear, painful examples can be found on youtube, in which obvious meat headed jugheads, blaring literal Fck You!! heavy metal music, storm along Baghdad streets in tanks, shooting at anything. Plenty of that footage out there. Plenty.

This is precisely the reason our Constitution specifically bars a standing army in or armed military operations in own country.

This is also precisely the reason the National Guard is composed of armed but local paramilitary force.

Power comes from the people.

Fascist government wants to invert that, empowering the few global, insane, inbred elites.

You would do well to read (on scribd dotcom) "The Atlantean Conspiracy"

Soon. Like, now.

Hollywood and all other mass media is totally controlled. You better unplug and WTFU.

If you want to see an example of 'film paralleling real life' look up on wikipedia The Lone Gunmen, a TV series with an episode that literally, almost point-by-point, portrayed 9/11 WTC attacks months before they happened.

No way that's coincidence. Look it up on wikipedia. Watch it on youtube. Stop being such a fool and back up your presumed patriotic stance with real fact and substance.

Was told recently of a marine in Montana who said they were being trained to prepare to take Americans guns and to show no mercy even in killing women and children.

some will some will not they are after all humans just like us and some will do whatever their told and others will think for themselves. So like everything else, its six of one and half a dozen of the other.

But, better question, will they just come and knock on your door knowing you are armed? Or will they hit us when we least expect it and in a way we don't see coming?

Originally posted by semperfortis
Just a note...

All Marines are taught that there are 3 types of orders that are never obeyed

1. Illegal
2. Unethical
3. Immoral

Can't speak for the other branches, but Marines are taught this in Boot

Semper

I served (for over 23 years) in all branches and components, except the Sea Services, so I can speak for the other services.

We take an oath to "defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic!" Training also includes not following illegal orders. There is even a UCMJ clause against giving an order that you know will not be followed.

Originally posted by spiritwomyn
Was told recently of a marine in Montana who said they were being trained to prepare to take Americans guns and to show no mercy even in killing women and children.

some will some will not they are after all humans just like us and some will do whatever their told and others will think for themselves. So like everything else, its six of one and half a dozen of the other.

But, better question, will they just come and knock on your door knowing you are armed? Or will they hit us when we least expect it and in a way we don't see coming?

Marines in Montana? Was the story teller smoking something?