Hello Everyone:
I hope everyone's doing well. (First of all, I'll point out as you'll soon realize yourself I'm still an "apprentice" here and trying to figure a few things out, but I am doing the best I can to do what's expected of me. I did search and read Many other threads to try & be sure this topic has not been discussed the way I'm presenting it, if I missed something just disregard this post & burn it.)
I would like to hear as much input from current and past military personnel as possible, but I'm just as interested and curious in allllllllllllllllllll opinions on this question. In getting to my question. If our beloved country reaches the point where many believe it's headed, which is part of either a NWO, martial law/police state, or several other versions of a militarized nation, would our military personnel just follow orders and kill/imprison their own family and friends, or would they stand up for our Constitution and what America is based on and rebel against the upper-tier government leaders, who are playing the average soldiers superiors like puppets? I hope our military establishments are not creating "robot soldiers" but soldiers who are able to think for themselves, and still follow orders at the same time. Now that I think about it, that could be a bonus the military gets out of mechanizing so many things lately. Drones and machines don't have a conscience, opinions, guilt, nor the ability to go into a courtroom and testify. They can save lives, yes, don't get me wrong. But, they can also "save lives" in another manner under some circumstances too. Night, night...........


Peace Everyone,
CBS

depends on the soldier, this question has come up alot and it seems like beating a dead dog at this point.

WoW. My optical nerve feels like jello after reading that....sorry....but you ever consider writing in paragraphs, make it a bit easier to read.

IMHO, I wouldn't think so.

Most of us who took that oath, will stand by it and protect our citizens, regardless who wants to give an order of otherwise.

It would be difficult for our military to take over Baltimore, never mind the whole country.

It's suicide.

From other posts I've read touching on this issue, I'd say the military will follow orders and fire on their brothers. Military people will be the first to tell you, they do as they are told and they follow orders, period!

If the boss handing down the orders doesn't give a crap about the constittion neither do they...

Star and flag

Ben:
Well, I learned something new tonight. I did write in paragraphs but it was in "business format." Evidently, ATS bunches everything together if you don't skip a line between paragraphs. I know better now thanks to you and I'm grateful.
Peace dude,
CBS

Just a note...

All Marines are taught that there are 3 types of orders that are never obeyed

1. Illegal
2. Unethical
3. Immoral

Can't speak for the other branches, but Marines are taught this in Boot

Semper

Maybe your military might? don't know,I thought you must of been generalizing
all military .when you said

"Would our military personnel honor the Constitution or just follow orders?"

Sorry it was not until I read your thread near completion that I noticed this thread is for Americans only.

good luck with your thread will be interesting how the votes swing on this one.

I do not think having been a soldier that it is the military you need to be concerned about. The police and private security contractors do the really dirty work. Most of them are not sworn to uphold the US Constitution and they really follow the UCC not the Constitution.

Most all of the governments business is done under the Uniform Commercial Code which is not the Constitution and does not discuss or deal with the rights of we the people as human beings with natural rights. It treats us like commercial entities based on our Social Security as a corporation set up in our name.

It strips us of our natural rights under common law.

It might sound kind of confusing but the things you see going on in the world that are truly disturbing and dis-empower the individual from our natural rights are products of the UCC. When the police arrest someone it is not for a violation of the Constitution because they do not defend the Constitution because that is not their job. They are defending commerce and the corporate government. Your rights are only recognized by but not awarded to you by the Constitution.



[edit on 6/23/2009 by UFOTECH]

phi1618:
Thanks for your input. As I said, I was purposefully trying to save energy and not kill an already dead "anything." My "search" terms used were obviously not adequate but I'll learn as I go here. Please overlook my mistake and I assure you I'll get better as time goes on 'cause I don't care for dead horses either, waste of everyone's time.

Peace dude,
CBS

Well being in the Military, I can tell you this, its all about the person. I for one, if I saw this happening, well I wouldnt sit by and listen to the people above me, I would fight back no matter what. As for being in the military, were here for the people and constitution, not for the goverment. So if you think were protecting the government, well we are in a sense (The Constitution), we dont like them, too much talking not enough action, but I joined to protect those I love, not to kill my own people because of the NWO. I promise you all I would never sit by if it did happen and take orders I would be the one helping to fight back, and I can tell you I've had this dicussion with some friends here and they believe the same thing, we wouldnt let it happen.

it happens all over the world: armies shooting their own kin, American troops will not be any different. And as for law enforcement sometimes i think they are just waiting for the chance to get to beat the living # out of populace...