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Originally posted by mmiichael
Just something related to my business life, I know a lot of Iranians - many now as friends.
Most are visiting or recent immigrants, but some from the Shah days.
They seem to think the reinstallation of the Shah's son is a non-starter. Maybe something ceremonial, at best, but no cigar.
Originally posted by mmiichael
Yeah, I thought of Huck Finn immediately. Has anyone contacted him?
Just something related to my business life, I know a lot of Iranians - many now as friends.
Most are visiting or recent immigrants, but some from the Shah days.
They seem to think the reinstallation of the Shah's son is a non-starter. Maybe something ceremonial, at best, but no cigar.
The big problem with what's happening now is despite the discontent, there really isn't a viable alternative being offered. Mousavi is the closest thing, and maybe that's enough. But the maze of governance set up by the ruling mullocracy is so intertwined with the religious structure, a major overthrow would entail a clerical revolt, as well.
Just a best guess, Khameini will step down or relived of his duties, and radical reforms will be announced by his successor.
Mike
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
Now I can agree with FredT, it really is starting to sound like this might be of American making.
If the regime kills Mousavi then the plot will thicken even more.
This is so suspicious and the way that CNN is desribing the Shah's ouster from power? Wow! Big ones, really big ones, that's all I can say.
Google Video Link |
Two independent filmmakers were inside the presidential palace on April 11, 2002, when he was forcibly removed from office. They were also present 48 hours later when, remarkably, he returned to power amid cheering aides. Their film records what was probably history's shortest-lived coup d'état. It's a unique document about political muscle and an extraordinary portrait of the man The Wall Street Journal credits with making Venezuela "Washington‚s biggest Latin American headache after the old standby, Cuba."
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I haven't tried to contact HuckFin but I couldn't help but think of his pretty outrageous claims that the Shah's son is the Anti-Christ bent on ruling the world.
I don't see the Shah's son being any kind of alternative at this point for the Iranian people either, unless enough discontent and confusion can be sewed into the ruling council of the Mullahs and he reenters Iran as some type of 'nuetral' intermidiary with the 'just the good' of the people at heart.
Originally posted by warrenb
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
S/F and kudos for posting the story as well as pulling together the excellent background information.
A nice window into the meat & bones of what's at play here.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
No wonder the Iranian youths are starving to death, to darn many cooks stirring the pot for anything left to be put on the table!
Originally posted by warrenb
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I've been thinking that all these supposed "photoshoped" Iranian government images we see online, are nothing more than planted western propaganda tools.
Boggles the mind
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
His real role all along could have been to pave the way for the return of the Peacock Throne?
The joke among emigre' Iranians is that all the brainpower has fled. And believe me, a lot of family fortunes too.
Originally posted by warrenb
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
His real role all along could have been to pave the way for the return of the Peacock Throne?
Hadn't considered that angle. Very interesting indeed. What would Israel's benefit be in this arrangement though, seeing as how they fluff their feathers at Iran almost weekly? Could it be that instead of media coverage for the plight of the Palestinians being brought to prime time, we are instead being force fed an elaborate puppet show. We see the odd MSM piece here and there but it only gets 5 minutes of fame and quickly vanishes from the social collective mind. Of course I'm jumping to wild conclusions but I can't phantom the reasons for such an elaborate ruse.
I'm all ears on theories
Israel to jump-start its settlement expansion
It's stuff like this that people won't remember tomorrow or next week
Whereas this:
Revolutionary Guards commander defies Khamenei's orders to use force on protesters
Will stay in the news and propagate itself
Just a thought but if some Iranian sites are offline/inaccessible then how are others from the same country able to be online? Not sure about the technology in that aspect, how would that work?
Or is it simply that the accessible sites are covert western propaganda tools, again used simply to create the news and views as required...news on demand.
[edit on 22-6-2009 by warrenb]
Originally posted by warrenb
and now this appears...
Video Proof: Ahmadinejad Asking for Voter Fraud From Council.
the ruse expands to new frontiers or does it?
Or is it simply that the accessible sites are covert western propaganda tools, again used simply to create the news and views as required...news on demand.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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Iran has been bled dry since the 50's of it's brightest minds and biggest fortunes and the Islamic Revolution has simply not enriched the peasantry to the point they peasantry hoped.
In fact the attempt to do so might have been what has truly done them in, take a person off his hamburger diet to feed him steak and he is going to love you, take away the steak and stick them back on a hamburger diet, well lets just say you better be able to make the world's best chilli to put on top of it!
Beirut was the Paris of the Middle East before the Civil War and if they could rid themselves of Syrian and Iranian political and economic influences they certainly could regain that distinction but sadly as long as you have economic loss and hardship because of the wide ranging wars and disturbances througout the Middle East it's always going to leave open that door to jump start capital being brought in by foreign political ellements which usually just ends up leading to the next rounds of strife.
Iran is actually a peaceful nation, Lebanon is too, but when you get situations where the Shia and the Sunni start distrustring one another and then throw in a couple other elements like the Druze and the Christians and the Palestinians into a place like Lebanon with Israel, Syria, and Iran all trying to micromanage it from a distance you have nothing but heartache.
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By the way, I researched all about the order of nuns your dearly departed wive's relatives belonged to, what a fascinating history they had.
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It sure isn't just the Muslims who love to fight amongst each other!