I agree with you, sweat. I can't remember how many times I've heard military planners and lecturers saying that "low intensity conflict is the face
of future warfare." Riiiiiight.
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reply posted on 7-5-2004 @ 04:46 PM by aerospaceweb
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Buddy tanking is a TERRIBLE idea.
I think the Navy is starting to realize that its tanking capabilities are insufficient. I read recently that they've asked the competitors in the Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) program to provide information on the feasibility of including refueling capability in their designs. The MMA is a replacement for the P-3 Orion and EP-3 land-based patrol aircraft, so the new plane would still be a land-based tanker rather than part of a carrier wing. The competitors for the MMA contract are Lockheed Martin offering an upgraded P-3 variant and Boeing offering a version of the 737.
www.globalsecurity.org...
reply posted on 7-5-2004 @ 05:23 PM by COOL HAND
Originally posted by aerospaceweb
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Buddy tanking is a TERRIBLE idea.
I think the Navy is starting to realize that its tanking capabilities are insufficient. I read recently that they've asked the competitors in the Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) program to provide information on the feasibility of including refueling capability in their designs. The MMA is a replacement for the P-3 Orion and EP-3 land-based patrol aircraft, so the new plane would still be a land-based tanker rather than part of a carrier wing. The competitors for the MMA contract are Lockheed Martin offering an upgraded P-3 variant and Boeing offering a version of the 737.
www.globalsecurity.org...
They are asking if the ability to be refueled can be incorporated into the design. It would be able to use a AF style of refueling system, vice the navy probe and drogue. That would allow the aircraft to stay on station longer, or take off with a higher payload and then immediately refuel in flight.
reply posted on 7-5-2004 @ 06:48 PM by jetsetter
Originally posted by aerospaceweb
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Buddy tanking is a TERRIBLE idea.
I think the Navy is starting to realize that its tanking capabilities are insufficient. I read recently that they've asked the competitors in the Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) program to provide information on the feasibility of including refueling capability in their designs. The MMA is a replacement for the P-3 Orion and EP-3 land-based patrol aircraft, so the new plane would still be a land-based tanker rather than part of a carrier wing. The competitors for the MMA contract are Lockheed Martin offering an upgraded P-3 variant and Boeing offering a version of the 737.
www.globalsecurity.org...
The upgraded P-3 won the contract.
reply posted on 8-5-2004 @ 01:12 PM by aerospaceweb
Originally posted by COOL HAND
They are asking if the ability to be refueled can be incorporated into the design. It would be able to use a AF style of refueling system, vice the navy probe and drogue. That would allow the aircraft to stay on station longer, or take off with a higher payload and then immediately refuel in flight.
Hmmm, the way I read the article, it sounded like the Navy wanted to use the MMA as a refueling tanker, but I suppose I could've misread it. Your explanation makes more sense.
Originally posted by jetsetter
[The upgraded P-3 won the contract.
I don't think that's correct. I haven't heard of any final selection being made. In fact, the latest press release on Lockheed's site indicates that the've just unveiled their proposal, and the article is only 1 month old.
www.lockheedmartin.com...
The story also says, "The contract for the next phase, System Development and Demonstration (SDD), is scheduled for contract award in June 2004." At SDD, they usually downselect to one contractor who will go on to complete a full-scale design.
I'm going to a conference next week, and there are a few presenters on P-3 topics. Maybe they'll have some updated information on the MMA. There's also a briefing on the "Aerodynamic Characteristics of the Quad Tiltrotor," which I believe someone was asking about in another thread.
[Edited on 10-5-2004 by aerospaceweb]
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