Michelle Obama:You must serve the government, not vice verca.

So what do you think? Is this the beginning of the end of the rule that the government exists to serve you?

The concept is a good one but I do not trust the government being involved. I have spent many years 'serving' in my community and enjoyed doing so.

However, today, I choose to be of service with like minded citizens that want to work together to restore the Constitution of this country and place the 'power' back where it belongs - with The People not the government!

As far as 'the beginning of the end of the rule that the government exists to serve you' goes?? This RULE is the Constitution. Making government smaller and less involved in running our lives. And, the beginning of the end started decades ago.

I just heard a Judge on a radio talk show here in Vegas state that they recieved a letter from our legislatures informing them to be prepared for an increase of juvenile arrests in our court rooms through out the summer.

That all juveniles brought before them are to be offered community service by agreeing to register to serve with "United We Serve" as their only option for community service or full force of the law would be pursued.

As a parent himself, he expressed his concern that while he and his wife are at work, children of all ages roming around, hanging out at the malls, or around town with their friends will be rounded up on false mischief charges forcing those who do not voluntarily register on their own will be mandated to do so pressure by the court system.

I was listening with my jaw wide upen and by chin resting on the floor!

I was always under the impression that the Government was "BY the people, FOR the people"

I see now that government is now "BY the government for the government"

I think its time for you guys to stand up, take ur rights back and kick the gov. in the nutz, i dont understand yiou claim to be perfect and this happens, why dont you act , your gov. is an enemy to its own people, you should look at your domestic problems first then maybe look at the worlds problems

The gov is for the people, they work for us.
These ...people.... are just digging the bottom of the barrel trying to make something happen.

Probably setting their liberal ass's up for the.. "It wasnt my fault" play...

I thought she would have been better at speaking.. oh well.... I guess nobody beats O.B.A.M.A

well... sho the adminishtrashion ish ashking you to enlisht yourshelvesh in a proshect to ashieve a nashion wide shuckshess at *.guv?

How nishe the way she looksh into the shcreen and you can shee her eyesh moving as she readsh that nonshensh...

Nishe... great firsht lady you guysh hav' now she jusht hash to learn how to shpeak english and keep her tongue off the shealing of her mousht caush she shounds like she hash a pool of shaliva underneasth it.

For the Motherland ! Fatherland ! Whateverland !

Why some people obey these calls ? Because people have a tribal nature - meaning they want to be part of a group of friends where they are appreciated for what they bring and so on. That is good.

A call to war or to serve the "..land" allows them to express that nature. But not as free people - they never learned to be that. They are given the opportunity "to serve" not to "participate" and many just love it - this chance to be part of something, somehow a group of "friends" - this is generally forbidden in the capitalist organization where all relations are impersonal money relations. The last remnant of the tribe being the family or the group of friends - that is kind of a "tribe" for a few hours a week.

www.primitivism.com...

When confronted with the awesome power of civilization whose first representatives are parents, teachers, priests (and, later on, police officers, legislators and bosses) the child faces, psychologically, the same situation as its tribal ancestors, namely, conform to the dictates of civilization or die. The helplessness of childhood makes the threat of bodily harm or loss of love, which is used by the parents and others to enforce civilized morality and civilized education, a traumatic experience. The developing little person becomes afraid to express its own tribal nature. There is much fear that lies at the bottom of becoming a civilized adult.

When the child becomes aware of ideas and impulses that oppose the dictates of civilization, s/he experiences anxiety, which is the signal for danger. It is not the insights and urges themselves that the child fears, but rather the reaction to them on the part of those in charge. Since the child cannot escape from those who control its life, s/he runs away from dangerous thoughts and feelings.

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Originally posted by Rams59lb
That all juveniles brought before them are to be offered community service by agreeing to register to serve with "United We Serve" as their only option for community service or full force of the law would be pursued.

First, I'd like to see Obama get the 'full force of the law'' for NOT registering, as the LAW clearly states that every U.S. male registers at the age of 18. He illegally alluded that registration (defiant?) until August 2008, when realizing this could bite him come election day.

I would take this to the Supreme Court if they tried this with my kid. I've never seen a legal reference for this, unless that judge you listened to is on your state's Supreme Court. That's the ONLY way I see this as anything close to legal.

I'd record the audio version, if it's still available somewhere; or at least write down what I could remember of his statement and date it before too much time passes (time fogs memory).

I'd then do everything I could to campaign his ass right out of his seat. Moms play a very pivotal role in the communities. We have contacts in local seats, out the wazooo. Plus we are the first and loudest in our communities. Well, while our children are school age.

Do you have a PTO mom that you can call? I'd be on the phone making serious calls, first thing in the morning.

This Obama is a bonofide HYPOCRIT in every single role and position he hasn't held. But quick to point fingers, pass laws, and punish anyone who's actions resemble his own. Just like the cigarette thing.

He must have personal issues. Seems he's judging and penalizing those who resemble his very own faulty behaviors.

Next, he'll deem everyone's birth certificate a forgery and force us to the back of the immigration line.

[edit on 23-6-2009 by SourGrapes]

Originally posted by R3KR
The gov is for the people, they work for us.
These ...people.... are just digging the bottom of the barrel trying to make something happen.

Probably setting their liberal ass's up for the.. "It wasnt my fault" play...

I thought she would have been better at speaking.. oh well.... I guess nobody beats O.B.A.M.A

If you look at her eyes you can tell she's reading from a teleprompter.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity

 

reply to post by PieKeeper

 

Again, yes. But why would the government want to reach out and organize these people under their watch, on their own website. Why not just say it;s good to do and end it at that? The fact that they opening up a government website and encouraged organization under the federal government's watch shows they simply want to expand their power over these people.

[edit on 22-6-2009 by Gorman91]

[edit on 22-6-2009 by Gorman91]

The reason is because many people want to help and volunteer in their communities but do know where to go or who needs help. The premise of this is not evil..sheesh. I know I personally sent in suggestions to create a site that is searchable for volunteer opportunities.

In addition, when I searched by my zip code in serve.gov it took me to another site which was not government. It was a local website where volunteer opportunities are listed.

I think it would be a fare better idea if local municipalities had the same type of website.

Originally posted by deadbang
While not a huge fan of either of the Obamas...to me this sounds like the speech that JFK gave at his inauguration...

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.

My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

Sorry but what she is saying is completely different to what JFK was referring to. JFK at least stated for us to ASK, while Michelle has stated several times that her husband is not going to allow us to return to a normal life, and now this....

There was a speech she made sometime this year in a University, or at the end of last year in which she stated her husband was the first President that was neither a Democrat, nor a Republican. That link is now missing/broken. I had the link saved, but it doesn't work anymore.

There is also the fact that even Emmanuel Rahm has stated that they are going to REQUIRE ALL Americans to do some sort of MANDATORY Community Service, even retired, and disabled Americans will be REQUIRED to do some sort of Community Service.

The current administration is implementing dictatorial Socialist programs such as H.R. 1388 which President Obama signed into law and which REQUIRES children starting from Secondary to do Community Service, and also gives all power over educational and serve programs to something which in the bill is called "The Corporation".

Not only that, but this Corporation can now have some sort of tracking of every American. Oh and BTW the bill says that you will have to serve with NO PAY which = to SLAVERY.

Even 1 hour of MANDATORY SERVICE is = SLAVERY to the STATE = Dictatorial Socialist state

Some other members and myself made threads about this bill giving links to it, and also excerpts to some of the things the bill says.

Democrats are trying to pass another bill in which American children starting from primary school will also be REQUIRED to do Community Service.

This is not the U.S.A. known as a representative REPUBLIC anymore. It is being turned into a Dictatorial Socialist regime, or worse.

[edit on 23-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
well... sho the adminishtrashion ish ashking you to enlisht yourshelvesh in a proshect to ashieve a nashion wide shuckshess at *.guv?

How nishe the way she looksh into the shcreen and you can shee her eyesh moving as she readsh that nonshensh...

Nishe...

great firsht lady you guysh hav' now she jusht hash to learn how to shpeak english and keep her tongue off the shealing of her mousht caush she shounds like she hash a pool of shaliva underneasth it.

We cannot do this alone.

duh, it will take everyone working together, not just the government "fixing" it for us. Some of you cry that the government is not meant to do everything for us, but then you refuse to step up to the plate yourselves.

I do not find it unreasonable for each and every one of us to step up in our communities to do what we can. I for one volunteer at my children's school. My husband volunteers to coach a soccer team. My 15 year old daughter volunteers at our local animal clinic on the weekends. My 11 year old, helps grandma, who is disabled with as much as he can. He also volunteers by helping younger children with reading every week. What do you do?

Why is it, that when a white man says "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.

Everyone hoot and hollars in support, and says how great thou art.

But when a black woman says "We cannot do this alone. We all have to do our part"

People go OMG blah blah blah it's the end of the government. Racism? Just hate for the "other" party? (even though I don't see much difference between democrats or republicans) Gotta have SOMETHING to blah blah blah about?

jjkenobi, how about VOLUNTEER service in your community? If everyone in the community volunteered one day year at our school systems, we would not have a shortage of assistance in our school, we would have better schools and more accountability for our school system. Yeah yeah yeah, you pay your taxes and that is all that is necessary right? Let's just throw some more money at it instead of actually DOING something.

Their are a trillion ways that people could step up and volunteer. It does not take much time. For example, people are needed to drive cancer patients to their appointments. Driving someone who has cancer to an appointment once a week or once a month would be such a hardship right?

Oh, but that would be showing compassion for your fellow humans. We can't have that now can we in this corporate USA? Compassion and corporatism, does not go hand in hand obviously.

Come on, we want want want, but don't WANT to volunteer in our communities. OMG that might mean we have to act like we actually care about more than ourselves. And that, my fellow USA citizens, is just not American now is it?

irishchic, saying "I will only if you will", sounds like a child if you ask me. Why not step up and be a role model for those around you? Nah nah nah, guess what, I am so now follow through on "I will only if you will", because I am. Now it is your turn.

Gorman91, because just saying it is good and leaving it at that, means NOTHING HAPPENS. People then just bury their heads and say "my neighbors can do it". And you know what? MOST people don't even KNOW their neighbors anymore. How many of you can name your neighbors?

And, if the system is corrupt, GET OFF YOUR AS**** and DO something about it.

Harm None
Peace

Originally posted by jd140
I think this is aimed at the American youth. She keeps talking about doing something useful this summer.

If I had a kid old enough to volunteer, I would keep her far away from this organization.

You will have no choice. There is at least one bill which President Obama signed into law in which at leat children starting from Secondary school up to high school have to do MANDATORY Community Service, at least 50 hours a year. College students will have to do 100 hours a year, plus at least three months of military training MANDATORY.

Emmanuel tried to claim it is not military training, but he himself said the training will be done in military bases, and then again remember President Obama's speech about the new Civilian force which he wants to be as WELL trained as the military, as well prepared, and as well armed...

Between all of this and Janet Napolitano and the DHS stating that Americans who want to defend and uphold the Constitution, Americans who want to defend their right to own and bear arms, returning veterans, and people who fear COMMUNISM are all "possible terrorists" should be enough evidence for the Obama fans to see the Republic is being transformed into a Dictatorial Socialist regime, or worse.

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You are kidding right?... Do you understand the difference between VOLUNTERING and REQUIRED/MANDATORY SERVICE?.....

Do you understand what freedom of choice is?.....

The current administration doesn't want Americans to have FREEDOM OF CHOICE, among other rights.....

I was born and raised part of my life in a Communist dictatorship which has almost the same Socialist programs the Obama administration have been implementing into law, and they still want to do more to turn the Representative Republic into a Dictatorial Socialist State...

Stop hiding behind the color of skin of the president and the first lady...

This is not about COLOR, this is about FREEDOM....



[edit on 23-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

I have never served the Government and I never will. They are nothing but liars and thugs who are trying to turn us all into communist slaves no thanks. They can put me on all there lists for all I care it means nothing to me.

reply to post by Gorman91


I don't like Obama, but come on.. she didn't say anything close to what the title of the thread implies. Did I miss something?

BTW here is a video in which Emmanuel Rahm states that the #1 issue of the President is to disarm Americans. If you are a "possible terrorist" you cannot buy a handgun... what is it that the DHS report states?.... Pretty much ALL Americans who don't want to bow to this Socialist dictatorship which is replacing the representative Republic will not be able to buy guns, and of course this will also mean it will be illegal for such Americans to own firearms...

www.youtube.com...

Here is another interview in which Emmanuel Rahm talks about MANDATORY Community Service. Listen and watch this video to the end if you are interested in what the U.S. is being turned into.

vodpod.com...

I'm not sure but it seems to me that this is 'conditioning' for This?

www.govtrack.us...
H.R. 1444:

Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act
3/11/2009--Introduced.
Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act - Establishes the Congressional Commission on Civic Service to make recommendations to Congress for: (1) improving the ability of individuals to serve others; (2) training leaders in public service organizations to better utilize individuals committed to national service and volunteerism as they manage human and fiscal resources; (3) identifying solutions to the barriers that make it difficult for some individuals to volunteer or perform national service; and (4) building on the foundation of current service and volunteer opportunities.
Specifies topics to be addressed by the Commission, including deterrents to service, a mandatory service requirement, and the need for a public service academy.