Michelle Obama:You must serve the government, not vice verca.

She is making the slow, gentle and well lubed push to ease the GIVE Act into action. Congress pushed the bill through with lightening speed so that they could begin making "changes" this Summer. Summer is upon us folks. Lock up your kids and protect them from Obama's social agenda.

www.opencongress.org...

I find it rather odd that this kick off coincides with the renaming of ACORN. www.abovetopsecret.com...
ACORN is destined to be involved with this project and all of the money that comes with it.

[edit on 22-6-2009 by jibeho]

[edit on 22-6-2009 by jibeho]

besides the words coming out of her mouth demanding our servitude to the masters, i noticed that she doesnt smile during the whole thing, except once or twice that looked more like she was showing her teeth.

Glad to be Canadian. I like the cold up here. Keeps the wierdos out. Sorry about your first lady. At least here we dont let the wife of the boss speak out.


[edit on 22-6-2009 by Le Colonel]

Originally posted by Jakes51
Asking me to do my part? Hmmm, aren't my tax dollars enough and my military service adequate? I feel I have fulfilled my role and then some. I pay my taxes, drive the speed limit, return books to the library on time, throw my trash in the proper waste basket, and the list goes on. So they want us to start doing their jobs that they have been elected to perform? That is what I think she is telling us to do.

Miss high and mighty it sounds like to me. I did this and I did that. Talk about stroking one's ego. I'm completely against impressment and that is the vibe I am getting from that announcement. I refuse to be an indentured servant and quite possible that is the road they are leading us down. If I wanted to perform public service, I would run for office or volunteer on my own accord. I don't need some noble telling me to do it. They have some nerve asking us to help our fellow citizens as they are living in the palaces on the hill looking down on us peasants and further insulating themselves with unspeakable wealth. Shame on all of them.

Exactly,

You serve your country by paying taxes, starting a business, working at a job, serving in the military and more.

What's wrong with this nonsense, is the Government wants you to serve your country in the way they see fit not the way the individual see's fit by their own Liberty.

If a person starts a business, pays tyaxes and donates to charity they are serving their country. Many people already volunteer their time.

I knew something wasn't right when Obama pushed for a local police force that was stronger than the Armed Forces during the campaign.

I'm still amazed that Obama was never asked about this. This was a BIG DEAL if you ask me. Why would he want a Civilian National Police Force that's stronger than the military?

For several days now, WND has been hounding Barack Obama's campaign about a statement he made July 2 in Colorado Springs – a statement that blew my mind, one that has had me scratching my head ever since.

In talking about his plans to double the size of the Peace Corps and nearly quadruple the size of AmeriCorps and the size of the nation's military services, he made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

www.wnd.com...

Obama has more czars than the Romanovs and he's trying to control private industry. I keep saying he's trying to build a nation within a nation. This is why he wanted that strong civilian national police force that was stronger than the military.

Originally posted by Matrix Rising

Originally posted by Jakes51
Asking me to do my part? Hmmm, aren't my tax dollars enough and my military service adequate? I feel I have fulfilled my role and then some. I pay my taxes, drive the speed limit, return books to the library on time, throw my trash in the proper waste basket, and the list goes on. So they want us to start doing their jobs that they have been elected to perform? That is what I think she is telling us to do.

Miss high and mighty it sounds like to me. I did this and I did that. Talk about stroking one's ego. I'm completely against impressment and that is the vibe I am getting from that announcement. I refuse to be an indentured servant and quite possible that is the road they are leading us down. If I wanted to perform public service, I would run for office or volunteer on my own accord. I don't need some noble telling me to do it. They have some nerve asking us to help our fellow citizens as they are living in the palaces on the hill looking down on us peasants and further insulating themselves with unspeakable wealth. Shame on all of them.

Exactly,

You serve your country by paying taxes, starting a business, working at a job, serving in the military and more.

What's wrong with this nonsense, is the Government wants you to serve your country in the way they see fit not the way the individual see's fit by their own Liberty.

If a person starts a business, pays tyaxes and donates to charity they are serving their country. Many people already volunteer their time.

I knew something wasn't right when Obama pushed for a local police force that was stronger than the Armed Forces during the campaign.

I'm still amazed that Obama was never asked about this. This was a BIG DEAL if you ask me. Why would he want a Civilian National Police Force that's stronger than the military?

For several days now, WND has been hounding Barack Obama's campaign about a statement he made July 2 in Colorado Springs – a statement that blew my mind, one that has had me scratching my head ever since.

In talking about his plans to double the size of the Peace Corps and nearly quadruple the size of AmeriCorps and the size of the nation's military services, he made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

www.wnd.com...

Obama has more czars than the Romanovs and he's trying to control private industry. I keep saying he's trying to build a nation within a nation. This is why he wanted that strong civilian national police force that was stronger than the military.

Yeah, I remember him mentioning something about a civilian paramilitary force during the campaign, and he worded it differently; but non-the-less that is exactly what it will be. Maybe this plan will be his group of informers kind of like the Hitler Youth and they will tell on their parents, teachers, clergy, ect. when dissenting against his policies. President Obama is only laying the ground work for his vision of the country. Many comments made by the man have made me suspect of his true intentions. All I can say is that the media should start honestly questioning these outlandish ideas and start doing some investigative journalism again. We have to keep a watchful eye on this sweet talking south side of Chicago politician.

reply to post by Jakes51


A bit of "Let them eat cake", eh?



reply to post by jd140


Because those people can't pay taxes to the our dear leader. Why on Earth would they get their nice clean hands dirty for them?


reply to post by warrenb


Wow, this made me laugh. A very good point. At least with FDR's flavor we got payed!





And to all of you, I quote from an ABC trailer for the new V: "They're arming themselves with the most powerful weapon out there: devotion"

[edit on 22-6-2009 by Gorman91]

Originally posted by warrenb
reply to post by Gorman91

 

Serve.gov

Because volunteering will put a roof over your head and feed your family.

What flavor would you like your communism?

yeah...helping some elderly people in a convalesant hospital a couple hours a month is COMMUNISM!!!! jeez! get a grip! nobody is forcing you to get off your lazy @ss and lend a helping hand anywhere, anytime. relax!! lower your weapon!!

reply to post by jimmyx


Because historically speaking, when a government asks it's people something and nothing happens, they get angry and forceful. Case in point: Bush phone tapping. People didn't care about the government's fear mongering, so the government forced the people to be the criminal, for their own "security"

The simple fact is no government responds nicely to their people not listening to them. Just look at Iran now.

Originally posted by jimmyx

yeah...helping some elderly people in a convalesant hospital a couple hours a month is COMMUNISM!!!! jeez! get a grip! nobody is forcing you to get off your lazy @ss and lend a helping hand anywhere, anytime. relax!! lower your weapon!!

How about you first?

Then report back to us verifiable results of all your efforts to "serve the government".

Sadly you come off sounding more like the type of person that would serve their government by snitching on their fellow citizens.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Alxandro

 

I'm not sure I understand you.

Oh, I totally get him! 100%

reply to post by SourGrapes


Well I get him by proxy, though the usage of those names I do not. Sorry for the confusion.

Originally posted by Gorman91
That's right. The government no longer is here to serve you. YOU must raise your worker's hand and serve it!

A few quotes from some famous people in US history.

Quotes: Founding Fathers and Presidents

"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself."
John Adams

"Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master."
Dwight D. Eisenhower

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government -- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."
Patrick Henry

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men."
Abraham Lincoln

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpation."
President James Madison (1751-1836) speech, Virginia Convention, 1788

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government."
Thomas Paine

Thought that these quotes might just fit in with this thread.

[edit on 6/22/2009 by Keyhole]

reply to post by Gorman91


He's insinuating that George Soros is the real President.

MB is a tool, just like her husband; only she's not as good at it.

It's very difficult for her to pretend to like us peasants. 'Holier-than-thou' seems to have frozen to her face. Didn't her mother tell her that if she doesn't wipe that look off, it'll stay that way? Well, it did. Now, it's very difficult, if not impossible, to look genuinely 'nice' or 'caring'.

I'm sure her public image trainer has had to put in some long and grueling over-time 'in serve(ant).org hours, and all she could work up is a measly 'something's caught in my teeth' scowl (okay, maybe two).

She probably pockets a few bills each time she pretends to 'show a care'. Wow, that plus how much we already pay, for her just to address us? She's gotta be making a pretty penny.

We already know that her servants are free, they should feel lucky she allows them oxygen in her presence.



[edit on 22-6-2009 by SourGrapes]

reply to post by SourGrapes


I know. Again, at least with FDR.s socialism we got payed for our labor to the government. Now we don't even get that? What the hell are they thinking?

reply to post by Gorman91


Off the bat: I'm not from the United States of America.
This sounds like quite a good idea, however. It sounds like the sort of initiative that will help bring communities together rather than keeping them isolated behind big fences watching plasma tvs and living in blissful consumptive ignorance.

Everybody should appreciate the work we do for each other and try to build positive communities together. What better way to do that than getting out and offering service and talking and communicating, rather than being internet warriors with axes to grind and forums to troll.

+1 for a good idea.

Mrs. Obama has entitlement issues.

Hey Michelle, Janet Jackson was talking to you and your hubby when she asked "What have you done for me lately?".

We've all been "serving" for years, our entire adult lives as a matter of fact. You take half of everything we bleed and sweat for. We sacrifice many amenities that our families would enjoy, because, well, "Sorry honey, I know I was gone for two months earning this money, but we're going to have to downsize your 10th birthday, because I have to give half of it to Uncle Sam".

"That's ok daddy, but tell your Uncle he's not invited".

So, I'll ask the same question. Other than spread fear and panic, making everyone think the world is going to end we don't support your ill-conceived legislation, just what have you done for us? Oh, and simply taking credit for the polish the media is putting on the economy doesn't count. We still know it's failing miserably. We know we won't be finished with Iraq for years to come, so on and so forth. In short, we know that what you're doing for us, is taking that rock and that hard place that dubya left us in, and squeezing them together. Scratch that, now you're demanding that we blindly volunteer ourselves into slavery and squeeze them together ourselves. Hey, at least you're smiling while you do it though.

reply to post by aorAki


Because telling people to work purely on their good will by order of the government is communism. Doing it on your free will is good and kind, but once the government says you have to do it FOR THEM, it is communism.

Doing good for others and doing good for the federal government are 2 different things.

The point is she asks us to serve them, when they should serve us.

[edit on 22-6-2009 by Gorman91]

I did not support the Obama campaign and I oppose vigorously many of the President's goals and initiatives, but this is one that is easy to understand and is a benefit to those who serve and those who are served.

Voluntary service to the community is as basic as it gets and is endemic to American culture and has been since the earliest days of our Republic.

This program is not unlike the "Thousand Points of Light" program initiated by GHW Bush.

I really don't think that most of the respondents here have really listened to what Mrs. Obama really said.

I volunteer of my time and money to support organizations that benefit the community and it is probably the most rewarding work I have ever done. I am not paid for the many hours I put in, in fact I pay for the privilege, and I receive no tax relief for the money I donate.

Yet, I am the one who reaps the true benefit and I would posit that such would be true of those here who ridicule the concept.


"I have spoken of a thousand points of light, of all the community organizations that are spread like stars throughout the Nation, doing good. I will go to the people and the programs that are the brighter points of light, and I will ask every member of my government to become involved. The old ideas are new again because they are not old, they are timeless: duty, sacrifice, commitment, and a patriotism that finds its expression in taking part and pitching in."

—George H. W. Bush, 1988

www.bartleby.com...


[edit on 2009/6/22 by GradyPhilpott]

One aspect that was brought up in another thread that I find worth noting. Some of the free government service being required often fills roles that are typically private positions that pay is expected for. The positions are being filled by those fresh out of high school as well as college students, thus eating up a chunk of entry level positions.

In the middle term, this would be an additional aggravation to job seekers, and those who currently only have to fight to keep their jobs from being outsourced or given to H-1 visa holders. It also has a secondary effect of reducing the taxes paid to the government.

In the long term, this will remove low skill and entry level positions from the job market, giving them over first to unpaid 'volunteers' and then as they come up to speed, robots. A few years after the robots fill those positions, there will be a dearth of Americans with the skills and connections needed to fill non entry level positions. I can only assume that at some point as VAT taxes become the norm for most government income, the welfare, unemployment system will be expanded to keep the government going, as income taxes will steadily decrease

reply to post by GradyPhilpott


I understand that community service is good, but what the federal government is doing is expanding into influencing and essentially leading it. In other words, they are trying to recruit it under the guise of good, but why would the government want to expand into this department anyway? Powerplay! The government only expands so to expand it's power. This is a basic rule. There's no other reason for opening the site and calling people to be part of it. It is simply the government trying to access a free worker source. IE, slave labor. Alone it is good because it is genuinely from the heart of the common folk, but the government is not the common folk. The government is only interested in control, and this is just what that is.