reply to post by HolgerTheDane
HolgerTheDane. I am a huge and known Alien Skeptic across the boards. I simply don't believe in them. But this not believing can be used in a
peaceful manner. For instance:
jkrog08, in your opinion do you believe that what is filmed is alien?
Now I can probably guess that he will say yes. Personally, I do not believe it is alien, yet I do not believe that the following are birds. As some
pepole on ATS know I am a calculation wizard. I love it and yet I hate math..lol.. So lets use this calculations:
For instance what we are looking at, their are no markers to mark how far away the objects are. However, we can get an estimate. For instance how is
he holding the Camera? and at what Angle?
The camera is in an angle of about 310-320. Using a radian circles degree measurements, the persons head will be 360 degrees, just for the purpose of
this explaination. Anyway, the angle is about 310-320 How can I tell. The sky for instance, since the sky is blue we have shades and markers of the
sky. The darker the blue the more of an angle you have to move up. The lighter the sky means you have reached the top, their is no more room up. Even
Simplier: If you were holding your camera straight up into the sky, you would have no shadows, because the camera is looking directly, straight up
into the sky. However, if you are holding it up in an angle of 310-320 degrees you will have shadows and depending on how dark of the shadows are you
can tell how far and what direction the camera is in. Thats all the explaination on the camera. How far away the objects are become another matter.
The blurryness or the Blur effect is important here. This type of Camera had all the stops pulled out for it to be manufactored, infact it is the last
camcorder of B&H. I am not too sure about Camera range, but I am sure it would be reasonably good for that period. The Blur only adds to the
authenticity of the footage.
Now lets look at the objects. The fatherest at they are apart is around 2.5 inches. Since we do not know the distance we cannot come up with the depth
and what not. But that does not mean we cannot work something out. Taking the shadows and the figure we are of 2.5. Taking a number of the lowest
value 310/2.5 we get the difference of: 124. Now this figure is important to what the distance of the sky and the distance of the objects are. Taking
124 and with the blur effect, again taking the lowest value of the range of the camera we get: 124/.95= 130 feet. So we know that he is at least 130
feet away. This seems to authentic the tape right their. After all the image is definatley farther away then that, but remember that we used the
lowest value and the blur effect. The above can be added to and defined further.
Now that we at least have the basics. We need to measure the objects. I cannot measure the objects becaus ethey are just to small to blurry to make an
accurate description, yet we can make some statistics.
1) Birds do not move side to side, backwards or diagnal with that much ease. Now birds are very graceful creatures, but that movement is a little too
2) We can see the objects matching in pairs
3) The objects seem to have a formation that they are using
4) The formation looks practiced at times.
My conclusions is as follows:
The objects are not alien. The objects are that of a military experiment, we know they do it. And the truth is we do not know the entire extent of the
air forces capabilities, that is a known fact. We know that the military, air force and navy have vehicles that we may never even know about. The
formation proves my point, of it being a practice run and an experiment. My calculations prove that their is an object out their. My perseption of
this is as follows in even simplier terms:
The object is at best a UFO, but not an alien craft in anyway shape or form. This is an air force experiment, that was accidently and amazingly caught
Again Jkrog08, excellent thread
and excellent theories. Hope what I posted above helps..lol..