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VA State Police Say Anti-NWO and Gun Rights Activists are Terrorists

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posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 12:59 PM
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Well I have personally received death threats from a few anti-NWO posters here on ATS.

And why? The claim is that because I support globalization, that I am an idiot who needs to be shot.

Sorry, but quite a bit of the rhetoric coming out of those camps is not civilized discussion of political movements... it's more along the lines of shutting everyone up who doesn't agree with them and feeling a justification for murdering folks like me. I'm all for civilized discussion and debate, but the lunatic fringe are also attracted to these groups and gain a legitimacy from being with a group who is against the grain.

Are these groups the problem? No... it's just the fact that they are magnets for people who feel these groups justify their desire for being a vigilante.


But it's not just the anti-NWO crowd.. it's any of these cults which stem from a worldview of exemplary dualism.

It's the Islamofascists, the Christofascists, the anti-NWO crowd, KKK, Hizbollah, etc...

In the end, if you feel the masses are sheep, and that you somehow are aware of something that gives you more legitimacy then the sheep, then you are on the road toward the same type of isolation that gives rise to violent crimes. Why? Because you feel justified...




posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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reply to post by HunkaHunka
 


What?

You received death threats here on ATS????

ur joking!



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 01:07 PM
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Nope, I'm not joking. It was in an anti-NWO thread as well... I reported it to the mods simply as a violation of T&C and the posts were removed. I then placed the offending posters on my ignore list, and so I'm not sure if it continued, but it happened.

I'm not going to try to press charges or anything, because I do believe in free debate... but those forums are the only ones that it has ever happened in.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 02:06 PM
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Well that is sad that such hot head behavior can end up ruining good debate. And while I agree with you that those who resort to such irrational behavior are not quite all intact...

I have to make a distinction...the end does not justify the means. Not for those sad posters, or for this sad pathetic attempt of "terrorist watching"

 


Whether we like it or not...at this current time The United States of America is still a sovereign nation. And even still, as we speak anyone who wants to become a citizen still must go through pretty intensive education about the constituion, and accept the sovereignty of the U.S. before they can even be a citizen!

This kind of political double speak is not about true worrys about terrorists, it is just what it is. Political Doublespeak!

And very dangerous Political Doublespeak!

I am sure that if the founding fathers were here, and the signers of the Declaration of Independence were here and alive, they would already be labeled "terrorists".

The world has always had and always will have those loose nuts who go off and do crazy sick things, and harm others. But that is no reason, and cannot be justified as cause to label peaceful law abiding citizens as a possible danger because they live in a sovereign nation and want it to stay that way.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 04:31 PM
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Look at the definition of Terrorism it is grossly erroneous

There is no internationally agreed definition of terrorism. yet there it is in black and red. It seems America has decided what it wants terrorism to mean, or at least the state of Virginia has.

Even from a professional point of view...It's S**t!



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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Well, the trooper that wrote this up is a terrorist then, because I'm terrified that their going to label me a terrorist now because I believe in my 2nd Amendment rights and the Constitution. So who do I call to turn him for terrorist activity?



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 05:35 PM
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So let me get this straight.... Supporting Hamas and Hezbollah does NOT make you a terrorist, however, if you are for people being allowed to own guns, or are for the sovereignty of our country, or are in favor of state government over federal government, you ARE a terrorist. So therefore, if you are for how our government was designed, YOU are a terrorist. like those terrorists before us, like Washington, or Jefferson. THEY belong at gitmo......



so i hear that speaking English makes you a terrorist too now......



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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Terrorist groups:

Page 51 - Separatist movements:

American indians


??????

Hello!! Wasn't they actually there first???



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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Yes I thought the same thing! How insulting is that...this is totally
outrageous! In fact, I hope someone will SUE them.

This is a racist, bigoted, politically slanted twisted piece of work!



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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Funny I saw the same approach towards a society in black and white reel films.

It was hard to understand however, because the narration was in GERMAN!



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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In the URL for the pdf there it seems to indicate this doc was from 2004?

removed the h-t-t-p etc so people can see the url...

dhrm.state.va.us/workerscomp/presentations/safetyday2004/CrisisControllAssessPotentialThreatViolence.pdf


Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Are these groups the problem? No... it's just the fact that they are magnets for people who feel these groups justify their desire for being a vigilante.


Would you say the same thing about WWII vets or Muslims?

No? So how could it be fair of you to smear a bunch of other normal, good people, who are sticking up for their beliefs?

[edit on 22-6-2009 by 11andrew34] to fix the quote

[edit on 22-6-2009 by 11andrew34]

[edit on 22-6-2009 by 11andrew34]



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 06:34 PM
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So . . . you are all for the NWO . . . yes?

Or am I still on your ignore list because you disagree with me and could not answer simple questions like the one I just asked you . . .

[edit on 22/6/2009 by xxpigxx]



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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When will Americans, and the world, stand up and overthrow their dictators, and release these shackles once and for all? Be like the Iranians, defend your constitution.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 06:50 PM
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I am indeed sorry for bringing this up, it is off topic. Has anyone wondered why Obama visited a concentration camp?

Back on topic, this is outrageous! Though, I did remember thinking about how this would eventually happen. When they come to round us up I hope some people are ready to make the stand off.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 07:00 PM
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We would like to know more about that...it might be relevant. Do you have a link? That would lend credence to the topic. Thanks.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 07:05 PM
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Sure, he visited on June 5th.

Link: www.chicagobreakingnews.com...



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 07:30 PM
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They are teaching people how to label others and denounce them.
Nobody will ever feel safe in public.
You have to cut this short right now or you can kiss goodbye what's left of your freedoms.
The sycophants will grow like weed, you'll be surprised. In the times of crisis, doing this kind of spying can get someone a job.

This is very dangerous and a clear sign, along with the idea of voluntary work, of what is coming.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 08:26 PM
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off: When Obama was here in Germany a few weeks ago, media went crazy again, as if it was our president (even more!).
6000 cops, 13 mio €, the whole inner city of Dresden blocked to the "normal" people...
Then he went to Buchenwald, with our cancellor Merkel, who said: "We Germans will not forget that we got after the war the chance for a new start, for peace and freedom, and that we have to thank the determination and theduty - and yes, even this: the death toll - of the United States and to thank all those that are at their side as allies or resistance fighters were.

Sounds like we are partners.


on: That document is pretty frightening. Interesting is, here in germany, the anarchist, communist and left-extremist groups are considered as dangerous as the fascist and neo nazi groups. There are even repressions against clima-activists (you´d call them hippies
).

[edit on 22-6-2009 by euleberlin]



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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So ummm has anyone written the Commonwealth of Virginia and get a statement on this document?

Seems if its posted on their website, they would comment on it if asked?



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Skallagrimsson
Terrorist groups:

Page 51 - Separatist movements:

American indians


??????

Hello!! Wasn't they actually there first???


Attack the natives why don't they? a peaceful people who go on about their everyday business.

Half german chemist = TERRORIST!


How the?



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