Originally posted by BlackOps719
So "they" made their bed by being confined under harsh dictatorial military rule? You are blaming the people for the sins of the government, the
same way many speak hate against Americans and citizens of the UK for being responsible for the acts of their out of control governments.
Yes, I am. I think the citizens of America and the UK are also to blame for their out of control governments. All societies have the power to create
and control their own governments, it's just a matter of their will to do so. When they become reactionary and complacent, vs proactive and willful,
this is what they get.
Every day that I sit in my house and do not speak out or try to enact change, I am responsible for the actions of my government. The same goes for
every other capable adult human on the planet.
Originally posted by BlackOps719
The very idea that you can blame the people for the fools who rule over them is sheer idiocy. It would be like blaming the people of North Korea for
living under Kim Jong. Do you realize the difficulty of life under such circumstances?
Yes, I do blame the people of North Korea for the state of their country. They could change things if they wanted to, but they don't even want to.
How is that sheer idiocy? I think the founding of the United States of America, the French revolution, etc kind of prove you wrong.
Originally posted by BlackOps719
These people in Iran can be taken away or killed at the drop of a hat just for speaking out. Do you know what it is like to live under such
conditions? Perhaps Iran is W- retched as you claim....but is it because the people deserve to live in such anguish?
I don't think the youth of Iran deserve it one bit, but the people responsible for the current government do not get my sympathy at all. The US
constitution and bill of rights exist because people were willing to die for freedom and human rights. Iran had plenty of examples, good and bad, to
use as foundations for their political and justice systems. They chose the path of oppression and fear.
www.mideastweb.org... - here is a brief history of their brand of filth.
Originally posted by BlackOps719
Those Iranian people are fighting for their right to exist, they are fighting for basic human rights to speech and thought and expression. To condemn
an entire people for the acts of a few fundamentalist zealots and rogue politicians would make no sense. It would be like damning all Americans to die
because of the actions of the KKK and George W. Bush.
Too little, too late, but respectable for what it is. Where were these rioting masses when innocent women and children were being hung in the streets?
These riots look more like selfish tantrums than a true fight for the common good.
Originally posted by BlackOps719
From what I see it appears that the Iranian people have finally had enough and they are taking measures to show the administration just how harshly
they disagree with their lies and their brutality. It looks to me like the fundamentalist bullies pushed and now the people are pushing back
harder.
Finally had enough? Again, too little, too late. They should have had enough decades ago. I feel the same way about previous generations of Americans,
Brits, Mexicans, etc.
Originally posted by BlackOps719
For all of you who damn Iranian people and constantly complain about it being such a backward, disfunctional dictatorship, shouldnt you be happy to
see the people of Iran stepping up to the plate and trying to make a change? Should they not be commended for risking their lives and trying to change
the way they have to live?
I am glad that they have finally pushed back, about as glad as I would be to see a woman who allowed both her arms and legs to be cut off, trying to
bite the person who did it.
Originally posted by BlackOps719
Or would that make it difficult for you to keep on portraying them all as evil, backward Muslims?
I don't think they are evil, backward, and I don't necessarily believe it can be blamed on their religion. Complacency, fear, and conformity are my
issues, not ancient religious texts. They can only be used as a tool against the willing.