reply to post by Scopeless
Hastobemoretolife, you phrase his plan in a way that sheds a good light on it. Are you suggesting that if the plan to dissolve into global
governance fails, then plan B is to do it revolution-style?
Nope, I'm saying the only way his plan will ever be phased in is through a revolution. When Marx wrote his theory of socialism, and latter
collaborated with I for get who the guys name is, to write the Communist Manifesto, they were both white papers, they have never been tried, it was
new and revolutionary thinking at the time. They also left out the human factor in much of their theory, they assumed that everybody at the core is
the same mentally, i.e. as long as people have enough to be comfortable then everybody would be happy, and people would stand up against wrong doing.
But even they knew that communism would not be able to come into effect without a violent revolution. Now when you look at real world examples of
Marx's ideas you see that it doesn't work. You still have the haves and have-nots in socialism as is the same with Communism, the only difference
between the two is the Communist countries are dictatorships, hence, why we call NK and China Communist, and Europe Semi-Socialist.
Now Cloward and Piven were both radical Marxist professors, they wanted a Marxist America, like true blue bleeding hearts, didn't want the
revolution. So they came up with the Cloward-Piven Strategy. They figure through crisis after crisis after crisis a new Marxist government could rise
up from the collapse of the American government and constitution.
So as you can see their thinking was flawed right from the beginning. If the government collapses in this country it will be seen as opportunity to
scale the government back and restore the constitution, not replace the constitution with a Marxist World Order.
The reason for that is because they don't/didn't live in reality, and that reality is that people like their freedom and don't want to be told what
to do. This country is overwhelmingly freedom oriented. Not only that but the people that want freedom have just about all the guns.
So what do you think is going to happen the day Obama gets up there and tries to tell the American people that America now answers to a World
Government? Revolution. That is why Obama looks so "out of it" here lately, he sees the situation in Iran and sees that even though more democrats
support him since he first entered office the independents turning on him is seeing his job approval drop. Which means there are more people against
what he is trying to do than what he thought. He knows his polls numbers are going to keep dropping, 92% of democrats support him. He sees that he is
grossly out numbered.
The only new structure of government America will ever have is what the founding fathers intended. After seeing his numbers in the polls drop and the
situation in Iran, he is coming to the grim reality, for him at least, that he is actually living in a nightmare where the only outcome is revolution.
The whole intent and goal of all of this is to crash free-market capitalism, because they hate it. The problem is that free-market capitalism is
pretty much programmed into human nature, because we all are individuals.
Edit - grammar
[edit on 22-6-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]