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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 12:11 AM by nighinfinite
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Originally posted by Dermo
First it was French intelligence messing up the middle east.. then it was British intelligence messing up the middle east.. For the past 40 years, its
been US intelligence!!
An yet, we still believe that they are the destabilizing force in the world!?
Yeah it sucks isn't it.
Now I just hope the bloodshed can stop before more tragedies happen. Best wishes to the Iranian people.
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 12:45 AM by seeashrink
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Didn't anyone notice that they were protesting in english right after the election; "where's my vote, where's my vote??" Sheeesh. Why not just
have a crawler at the bottom of the screen saying: "SPONSORED BY THE CIA, THE SAME FOLKS THAT BROUGHT YOU VIETNAM"
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 01:18 AM by nastalgik
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Captain Obvious to the rescue again. OF COURSE WE ARE HELPING THE REVOLUTION. Build up asset networks since we don't have an embassy, fund / direct
the revolution, throw a high explosives in the mix to make it appear that Al-Qaeda (who hate Iran) are also in on the party (they should be) and the
most vital part? We need to pick up the dissidents and the people who run when the going gets rough.
If we do what we did with the Czechs when the Soviet Union destroyed their plan and we milk the defectors for everything...my god. Imagine an VEVAK
officer, pretty high up, or an operations officer who knows names of ghost sites, assets, ect. we would have hit the jackpot. Why wouldn't the CIA be
involved in Iran? Get the NSA to SIGNIT everything and counter those restrictions the government is putting in online also...that would really help
out.
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 02:15 AM by zanoni
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I haven´t read the entire thread as it´s getting big.But to people who doubt a CIA (and Mossad) finger in this new Iranian revolution.Do for example
a investigation of the Mossadeq case.One could also take a look at the Irak´s political history.One pattern will in both cases appear,
anglo-american secret agencies making sure that progressive, democratic leaders are not comming into power.
They, the bilderbergers, NWO a-holes or whatever they are to be called. They want these regions to be kept supressed under a bunch of lunatics.There
are surley many benefits for them to keep it this way.One that comes to my intention is that what you have is a wasps nest.At any point you can stir
some action up, as you always know that supressed people will see their chance in a revolution for a long dreamed freedom.In Irans case they got the
Shahn,then the mullas what will they get now?Only time will show.
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 02:22 AM by space cadet
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reply to post by Scooby Doo
This is Total BS Propaganda, put on by Iran themselves most likely. Jeez it is so obvious, and getting old, the old 'point your finger at the
mysterious US and their CIA', yeah, that's the ticket!
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 02:25 AM by SLAYER69
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"I don't think you can overstate the importance that the rise of Islamic fundamentalism will have to the rest of the world in the century
ahead-especially if, as seems possible, its most fanatical elements get their hands on nuclear and chemical weapons and the means to deliver them
against their enemies." --Ronald Reagan
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 07:32 AM by audas
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"Once again, Iran is an experimental field for innovative subversive methods. "
"The CIA is relying in 2009 on a new weapon: control of cell phones."
"First, SMS were sent by the CIA during the night of the counting of the votes, according to which the Guardian Council of the Constitution
(equivalent to a constitutional court) had informed Mir-Hossein Mousavi of his victory."
" After that, the announcing of the official results — the re-election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with 64 % of cast votes — seemed like a huge fraud.
"
"However, three days earlier, M. Mousavi and his friends were considering a massive victory of M. Ahmadinejad as certain and were trying to explain
it by unbalanced campaigns. "
"Indeed the ex president Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani was detailing his grievances in an open letter."
" The US polling institutes in Iran were predicting a 20 points lead for M. Ahmadinejad over M. Mousavi ."
" M. Mousavi victory never seemed possible, even if it is probable that some fraud accentuated the margin between the two candidates."
"Secondly, Iranian citizens were selected by the CIA or volunteered on the Internet by the CIA to chat on Facebook or to subscribe to Twitter
feeds."
" They received information —true or false— (still via SMS) about the evolution of the political crisis and the ongoing demonstrations. "
"These anonymous news posts by the CIA were spreading news of gun fights and numerous deaths which to this day have not been confirmed. "
"Because of an unfortunate calendar overlap, Twitter was supposed to suspend its service for a night to allow for some maintenance of its
systems."
" The US State Department intervened to ask them to postpone it . According to the New York Times, these operations contributed to spread defiance in
the population."
"Simultaneously, in a new type of effort, the CIA is mobilizing anti-Iranian militants in the United States and in the United Kingdom to increase the
chaos."
" A Practical Guide to revolution in Iran was distributed to them, which contains a number of recommendations, including:
set Twitter accounts feeds to Tehran time zone;
centralize messages on the following Twitter accounts @stopAhmadi, #iranelection and #gr88 ;
official Iranian State websites should not be attacked. « Let the US military take care of it » .
www.voltairenet.org/article160670.html
news.xinhuanet.com...
www.guardian.co.uk...
And more here
vdare.com...
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 08:14 AM by TM62
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Originally posted by pexx421
Come on, where does all this garbage about Iran challenging the world come from? They havent threatened anyone, and have not attacked another
nation in 300 years. I dont think anyone can throw stones at them for their "aggressive nature"....its virtually nonexistant. So ahmadinejad makes
some fiery rhetoric, so what? he's not their leader, more equivalent to Pat Roberts here who has threatened and urged assassinations of other
countries leaders... you dont see other countries lining up to attack us over the statements made by him. Khameini is the leader, and he has
threatened no one.
Further, even if the incorrect and propagandistic translation of what ahmadinejad said is to be taken as fact.....saying "such and such should
die" is a far cry from saying "we will be attacking you"....further, the israeli's have said multiple times that they will, that is WILL attack
iran if the US doesnt, and further that they consider doing it with a nuclear first strike. That is the most belligerent statement one can make in
this world.
Bravo!! I second that! Ahmadinejad actually states that he Loves America he just hates the government. I do not think he is that much of a liar, he
even said it in front of all the Israeli lackies at the last UN meeting. We should totally get our nose out of other country's asses.
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 10:17 AM by earthman4
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Originally posted by sy.gunson
My heart weeps.
Iran has been distributing fake US notes for 20 years now.
Talk about reaping the whirlwind.
Now we are getting at the real reason for the war in Iraq.
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 01:47 PM by Solar.Absolution
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reply to post by Scooby Doo
Not shocking in the least. As soon as I saw an article with the title " Another color revolution?" I thought CIA! maybe I'm paranoid , cynical etc
but it's to be expected Iran being the "enemy" of America.
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 02:06 PM by SLAYER69
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Originally posted by TM62
Bravo!! I second that! Ahmadinejad actually states that he Loves America he just hates the government.
Yup he is just such a warm and fuzzy kind of guy.
Hey lets invite him over for grilled hotdogs on the fourth of July?
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 02:59 PM by TM62
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Yes maybe if more people thought that way we wouldn't be trying to kill each other all the time. Way to simplistic I know, but the thought is nice.
Why can't we all get a long?
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 04:02 PM by templar knight
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This may or may not be true.
The revolution though is real and stirred on by the youth, who want more freedoms and have access to the rest of the world. The biggest threat though
is the Persian BBC and I am sure the CIA are helping to keep thios channel on air, when Iran are trying to block it.
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 06:11 PM by Q2IN2Y
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Hey I got an idea. Everyone that's saying the CIA gave 400 million to start the revolution.
Do me a favor, take a trip to Tehran, Iran, walk up to a crowd of people and tell them that.
Let's see how long it takes before you wake up in a foreign embassy.
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 11:16 PM by pexx421
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Hey, i got an idea, why dont you take a walk in the projects in new orleans, and tell one of the residents that our capitalist system with minimal
social services, and run only for corporate interest, are whats keep them being lazy, valueless, and impotent. See where you wind up....doesnt make
it any less true.
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reply posted on 23-6-2009 @ 03:59 AM by Boomer1941
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CIA...ya...ok...from a reliable source...lol The CIA has been burned so much they wouldn't dare fart outside DC...lol
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reply posted on 23-6-2009 @ 04:01 AM by zanoni
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reply to post by Q2IN2Y
Like in every other country there are people not concious enough or simply ignorant to history, signs, not keeping tabs on world events, scrutinizing
the political scene and trying to peer through it´s curtains.
For many Iranians this view that you present by your statement would surley be true. Im sure many want to be free from the current regim and see this
late revolution as window of opportunity to topple them.
But isn´t that the whole point with secret agencies to stir s*it up without being noticed in foreign countries? Mission accomplished if the targeted
countrys citizens turn on their own government and topple them.
On May 16, 2007, the London Telegraph reported that Bush regime official John Bolton told the Telegraph that a US military attack on Iran would "be a
'last option' after economic sanctions and attempts to foment a popular revolution had failed."
Source
www.rense.com...
Additional reading..
www.commondreams.org...
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reply posted on 23-6-2009 @ 02:26 PM by Q2IN2Y
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Originally posted by pexx421
Hey, i got an idea, why dont you take a walk in the projects in new orleans, and tell one of the residents that our capitalist system with minimal
social services, and run only for corporate interest, are whats keep them being lazy, valueless, and impotent. See where you wind up....doesnt make
it any less true.
?..hm, that was left field.
My post went OVER your head... and many others. They don't care what the CIA is doing. Only the USA conspiracy nuts are. It doesn't matter if the
CIA is funneling money to do it or not, the fact is these people are TIRED of the BS. They are tired of the regime in general.
This isn't a conspiracy anymore, stop being so cynical and think about the HUMANS who are actually fighting for something. They wouldn't give two
sh***ts if the CIA did it... it doesn't change the fact that the younger generation is TIRED of the regime in power. Of course they will be angry,
but their anger is more directed at the regime than anything.
Strip the nonsense conspiracies, and you have a group of the new generation tired of the old ways. You can't change that.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 01:36 AM by GORGANTHIUM
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It happens all the time.If the cia cannot get there own way,they start paying people off.Its really amasing how the cia pays people theses days.They
can pay people without anyone finding out.Even money put into someones bank account can be hidden from everyone,Even the bank employees.They can
control bank statements and everything to do with money transferes.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 02:28 AM by Sheeper
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Originally posted by seeashrink
reply to post by Dermo
Didn't anyone notice that they were protesting in english right after the election; "where's my vote, where's my vote??" Sheeesh. Why not just
have a crawler at the bottom of the screen saying: "SPONSORED BY THE CIA, THE SAME FOLKS THAT BROUGHT YOU VIETNAM"
You don't think maybe it's because the global community uses English as a universal way of communication? No it couldn't be that they want the rest
of the world to sympathize with them in their plight. I suppose their English speaking news outlets such as their own pro govt sponsored station
"press tv" is CIA backed aswell.
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