Iran finds US-backed MKO fingermarks in riots, page 4
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reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 04:21 PM by jonny2410
Originally posted by ::.mika.::
yo people

DENY IGNORANCE

there isn't a single proof nor evidence that elections were faken

(it is actually the exact opposite...
www.washingtonpost.com...
this one among others like this MKO stuff - the demonstration in paris was real, they claim so many thing that yes, absolutely, this is all premedited)


even if it wasn't faked, although declaring the winner in 4 hours when 35 million votes apparently were counted (no way in hell), the current government is barbaric, sexist and corrupt. I'm all behind the protesters.

These people want change and have the guts to protest and risk their life - it really shows up my country and others where people moan about their government (Gordon brown)yet but do jack all.



reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 04:22 PM by SaturnFX
well if the theocratic controlled state press said it, it must be true.

shesh, I bet all those protesters must feel really dumb now knowing that they were duped and that nothing fishy at all went on during the election...that it was in fact some guy whom was told to "stir up trouble" that fooled em all.

man, I wonder if they know they have the brainpower of goldfish and they were lead by a couple yanks...at least now they know that the all holy iranian government sorted it out and they can go back to perfect happiness and worship.

Also, did you know in Iraq, before the war, Saddam Hussein got 98% of the vote...totally on the up and up...his state run TV even said so...why would they lie?!?!


you know whats sad...some people in the west...even on this board...would totally trust iranian state run TV over the rest of the world and the iranian people. look at these posts...sad. I mean, think outside the box, sure...but this is outside of the universe the box is located in and in some sort of weird antiverse or evil universe (where Evil Spock/Kirk reside)

Yes, the citizens are revolting against the government
No, your belief or disbelief, approval or disapproval does not mean jack to them..its not your war, you have as much say in it as your cat has about your religion
Yes, the iranian people are dying in the street at the hands of their government
No, this is not the US military hiding behind iranian tanks shooting people
Yes, the state run theocratic iranian press that is allowed to operate under a media blackout does, in fact, lie..omg, totally cerial here...but hey..its a conspiracy..you can cling to that at least...and...tada..this one is actually real (which might automatically make it boring, but whatever).

Simply put, if you truely are against this revolution, get on a plane, goto Iran, and offer yourself up to help stop the western imperialism by shooting the iranian youth in the streets that are fighting the government for their voice and freedom...ya, your a hero.

-crack is wack-


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 04:35 PM by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by tristar


They are not the same pictures. Take a look at the windos right above the flag. On one picture those windows are open, on the next they are closed. The same can be said of several other windows in the foreground building. Those pictures were not taken the same day.

The scam here is being perpetrated by "propaganda matrix"...

Many membes in these forums always love to claim the U.S. or someone in the west is involved in everything that happens in the world, but these very same people, either on purpose, or not don't like to point out that regimes like Iran do their own propaganda too...

The same happens every time Chavez opens his mouth and claims "the U.S. is out to get him", several people here rally with Chavez, even after being shown that Chavez regime is not only oppressive, but Chavez himself has sanctioned violence against his own people.

Sometimes I think ATS is being used by elements who hate the west to propagate this sort of propaganda...



[edit on 21-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 04:39 PM by bsbray11
reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Not surprisingly, you are also biased in favor of the country you are from. What a shock.

I'm not biased in favor of ANY country, I think they ALL do thinks that are atrocious.

Guess what country is meddling the most with others' affairs, taking it upon itself to regulate what everyone else is doing in the world, starting wars with unprovoked countries and without UN approval? Not Venezuela. Not Cuba. Not Iran.

Which country?


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 04:39 PM by oconnection
reply to post by ::.mika.::


Flip the coin, what evidence do we have that it wasn't?

Really it's besides the point in my opinion, even if no tampering occurred, at very least, many in the west see an opportunity and are taking advantage of it. The end result is many are dieing, a country is being shaken.

We've called this country a dictatorship but yet they seem to care more about there form of government then we do. When we had two questionable elections with Bush, we made a few ripples, and that was the end of it. In Iran, the masses are out, protesting under any circumstance. If there is foul play at hand you at least have to look to the people of Iran and admire the fact they care more about the world around them more then we do, apparently.

Try and remove the box around your world and try to view these people as fellow human being. I know it's hard, you've been so desensitized but open your mind for once. Don't take the spoon that is being crammed down your throat when you read the paper or watch the MSM. Have an objective yet open mind.

[edit on 21-6-2009 by oconnection]


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 04:50 PM by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by bsbray11

Not surprisingly, you are also biased in favor of the country you are from. What a shock.


BS bray. I am not in favour of the Communist regime in Cuba, so i don't see how you can claim i am in favour of the country i was born in...

Originally posted by bsbray11
I'm not biased in favor of ANY country, I think they ALL do thinks that are atrocious.


Again, BS, and this is really obvious by your next statement...

Originally posted by bsbray11
Guess what country is meddling the most with others' affairs, taking it upon itself to regulate what everyone else is doing in the world, starting wars with unprovoked countries and without UN approval? Not Venezuela. Not Cuba. Not Iran.

Which country?


Chavez has been caught giving weapons, and other support to Colombia's FARC, and just like castro has done, and every other Communist regime has done, they get involved in other countries, giving support to those regimes that are against the west. This sort of propaganda has even infiltrated the west, which is in great part the reason why we are in the economic crisis we are in, trying to spread their propaganda against the west.


Venezuelan and Bolivian Support for Iran's Nuclear Program
By Ariel Farrar-Wellman

June 4, 2009
On May 25, 2009, evidence emerged linking Venezuela and Bolivia to Iran’s nuclear program. According to a confidential Israeli government report leaked to the Associated Press, Bolivia and Venezuela, which both have uranium deposits or reserves, have supplied uranium to Iran’s nuclear program.[1] While Bolivia has denied the allegations and Venezuela has not commented, both Latin American countries have enjoyed increasingly friendly relations with Iran in recent years. Both nations have additionally made public statements of support for Iran’s nuclear enrichment activities.

Venezuela:
Since Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s election in 2005, Tehran and Caracas have echoed similar anti-American rhetoric.[2] In 2007, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinejad claimed that they were strengthening an “axis of unity” against the United States.[3] This entente has spread to include Iran’s sanctioned nuclear program, ranging from Venezuelan statements of support for Iran’s enrichment activities to allegedly supplying the Islamic Republic with uranium.

www.irantracker.org...


Like i was saying, despite the false claims made by some, regimes like Iran do spread their own propaganda, and give aid to terrorist organizations who are anti-western.


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 04:50 PM by oconnection
reply to post by jonny2410


I do not hate my country, I hate the government that runs it. There's a difference between loving your country and hating the policies and the direction the power that be have taken this great nation.

Your argument is hallow, empty, and you are generalizing. The fact I am dissenting against my government, expressing my views, shows that I love my country, my fellow citizen, and I'm exercising my right to do so.

Go ahead and generalize everything, make everything black or white, you fail to see the gray areas.

Pfff!
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