Ron Paul only Congressman to vote against Iranian people., page 1
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Topic started on 20-6-2009 @ 06:35 PM by RRconservative
thehill.com...

The House overwhelmingly approved a resolution Friday in support of Iranian dissidents as that country’s top cleric warned protesters to end demonstrations.

The resolution was approved in a 405-1 vote, with two members voting present. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was the only lawmaker opposed to the resolution. Reps. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) and David Loebsack (D-Iowa) voted present.


And people wonder why Ron Paul is considered "kooky"? The people of Iran consider their election a sham, and Ron Paul doesn't want to support them...OK

What about the Muslim guy (Ellison) voting present? I guess he didn't want to upset the Ayatollahs?


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 07:21 PM by theyreadmymind
[edit on 20-6-2009 by theyreadmymind]



reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 07:27 PM by Miraj
reply to post by RRconservative



I have a feeling his reasons are simple - That American does not have a right, and should not interfere with situations in other countries.

I agree with the logic, many do.


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 08:13 PM by David9176
reply to post by muzzleflash



Ron Paul is a non-interventionalist. So he stands on principle. He stands for OUR country not theirs.

I would have done the same thing. ALthough i hope the best for Iranians..it's not my fight.

And now, what happens if the protesters are all killed and the Ayatollah remains in power?

We will be going directly against the wishes of their government which will only make relations far worse.

Think people!

[edit on 20-6-2009 by David9176]


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 08:26 PM by David9176
Ron Paul's Statement on the Iran Resolution, 6/19/09


I rise in reluctant opposition to H Res 560, which condemns the Iranian government for its recent actions during the unrest in that country. While I never condone violence, much less the violence that governments are only too willing to mete out to their own citizens, I am always very cautious about "condemning" the actions of governments overseas. As an elected member of the United States House of Representatives, I have always questioned our constitutional authority to sit in judgment of the actions of foreign governments of which we are not representatives. I have always hesitated when my colleagues rush to pronounce final judgment on events thousands of miles away about which we know very little. And we know very little beyond limited press reports about what is happening in Iran.

Of course I do not support attempts by foreign governments to suppress the democratic aspirations of their people, but when is the last time we condemned Saudi Arabia or Egypt or the many other countries where unlike in Iran there is no opportunity to exercise any substantial vote on political leadership? It seems our criticism is selective and applied when there are political points to be made. I have admired President Obama's cautious approach to the situation in Iran and I would have preferred that we in the House had acted similarly.

I adhere to the foreign policy of our Founders, who advised that we not interfere in the internal affairs of countries overseas. I believe that is the best policy for the United States, for our national security and for our prosperity. I urge my colleagues to reject this and all similar meddling resolutions.


www.campaignforliberty.com...




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reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 09:31 PM by GreenGlassDoor
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This is how it starts. First we say, "We condemn a violent Iran."

Then we move on to, "Well, maybe we can clandestinely fund the dissidents."

Then it progresses to, "Well, it'll be OK to covertly arm them."

Then it's, "We support the legitimate government of Iran in exile, and will give them military aid."

Then it's, "We are going to assist the Iranian government in exile by sending troops."

Followed by, "We're on a mission of liberation! Somebody call the Airborne!"

Finally, "We're invading Iran. For their own good."

Maybe it's best not to go down this path and plant the seed that has led us wrong for so long.

Ron Paul sees the cycle, why don't you?


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 09:41 PM by seataka
Originally posted by David9176
Ron Paul's Statement on the Iran Resolution, 6/19/09



I adhere to the foreign policy of our Founders, who advised that we not interfere in the internal affairs of countries overseas. I believe that is the best policy for the United States, for our national security and for our prosperity. I urge my colleagues to reject this and all similar meddling resolutions.


www.campaignforliberty.com...




[edit on 20-6-2009 by David9176]


AGREED, - I consider myself a staunch constitionalist populist - and believe, as our founding fathers did, that OUR government should be

OF the people, by the people and FOR the people.

NOT

of the money, by the money and for the money


And the USA is NOT a democracy, - Because the media is controlled and public opinion (even on ATS) covertly manipulated, then all you have is a plutocracy with democratic trappings


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 12:55 AM by Blueracer
reply to post by molotov



I agree with most of what you said. But the vote on this resolution was 405-1. Yet you singled out republicans. Come on man, the democrats are just as guilty on this.
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