We need to shut down ATS, page 2
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reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 02:45 PM by Gyrochiral
reply to post by silencer


And our common denominator is this spirit .. motivation known!!!

I look at this site as the penultimate messenger.
Minus his horse or sailing vessel.

A joining of like minds makes for a strong voice and forceful approach.
Communication via ATS allows this juncture.

Peace...


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 03:13 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by jd140



Well that could be part of your problem...

Playing too many games.

I take what is posted and discussed here at ATS very seriously some times depending on what the topic is. I do however believe that because of the openness in our collective societies not just the US but all members from countries from around the world. There is a very real danger of letting go of sensitive military secrets.

The very nature of ATS is to expose the truth. Sometimes this means topics that usually are not covered in other forums are discussed openly here and information that is not normally known or discussed by the masses may be released.

Just a thought.


[edit on 20-6-2009 by SLAYER69]


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 03:23 PM by grapesofraft
reply to post by Another Vodka



Are Florsheims even cool to wear anymore? You just gave me flashbacks to the 80's.

I think the OP's point was not so much about literally shutting the sight down, but about getting off our behinds and working with others to reshape the world as opposed to all staying hidden in our houses and whining and complaining about the state of the world.

[edit on 20-6-2009 by grapesofraft]


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 03:35 PM by jd140
reply to post by SLAYER69



Yeah god forbid I do something strictly for entertainment value like play a game.


Somethings here can be informative. The whole we need a revolution thing is a lost cause on this site. To many people talking about it and nobody actually doing anything and maybe one or two will ever do anything about it.

Hard to take it these people seriously when you know they are all talk.

No for me this is mostly entertainment. After all, I disagree with most people on this site, why would I come back if I took it as anything more then entertainment?



reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 03:42 PM by Ben Niceknowinya
reply to post by silencer




I'll bite.

Don't let my flaming bring u down brutha....as I am just going to wear my feelings on my sleeve.

No pun intended.

But mind your business. You heard me.

Just another person trying to tell me what to think....and what to do.
Quite embarrasing actually, as I find your post to be hypocritical.
You seems to come across as a person who thinks they are smarter than most people. That's your first fallacy.
I was checking out your profile.....as I do my homework too bucko....and you're a pieca work.
Now I'm gonna put holes in all of your sciences.
Let's begin.

you started a thread: Hypocricy @ it's Finest
www.belowtopsecret.com...
First line: You all are hypocrites and you know it
You're not challenging anyone but yourself. In the thread you rant on how people are wrong & lousy and greedy, and how *perk of how they should spend their money.
Again, mind your business. My wallet is no concern of yours....
Tell me, how much of your paycheck goes to homeless?
Charity?
Causes?
That's what I thought....

Another thread: Create Your Own Belovent Secret Society
www.abovetopsecret.com...
First off... Why would you promote something you speak so carefully against? Of secrets against others.......Congratulations.
Where can I make a donation.?

Gitmo related thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

tell us Silencer? Did u actually (take action) & protest this one, or are you just "as" bad & lazy stupid as people you like to label members of ATS?
Care to provide us with proof?

ANother: I Await the Arrival of the Anti-Christ (I saw some potential here)
edit to add -->www.abovetopsecret.com...
but ya screwed up with this line: """The elites are the guys who cheat, steal, murder and do all the 'bad' things, yet they are the Gods who control the world."""
Hmmmm>? cuz above you wrote:""Some of the people at ATS are very old members. They have come across every kind of conspiracy there is. Infact, I think it's safe to say that 99% of the members here believe the 'World is run by bankers' conspiracy, wanna get rid of the FED and cause a revolution. The fact is that it will never happen.""
Doesn't add up, does it?
Or, perhaps you had a change of heart?

Another thread: How Can Anyone Believe in God
www.belowtopsecret.com...
WoW. Bashing religion......for no good reason....or well, because of the proof issue. I agree. It's why I don't believe in it...anymore.
But why go and sh*t on someone's lawn? Dirty dog you....
You're full of animosity.....towards other people....why? I don't know man...

Let's continue.

Talking smack about America & how Americans need to "get a grip."
Some americans need to get a grip on reality!
www.belowtopsecret.com...
"""I like your 2nd post on that thread btw...Just as it seems, most Americans reading this post will guess that this thread creator is a " d!ck from UK, moron from france, Nazi from Hitlerland, islamo fascist, anit-american jihadi, freedom hater from China, loather of richest nation from Africa, scum in Latin America, stinky sh!t from Russia, leftist from Cuba "...the list is endless
this kinda sh*t really chaps my hide. I wasn't even born in this country and yes....I would die for it. I enlisted in active duty in 95.
I really hope your not in this country, and from another....people such as yourself take this country for granted for the most part..Atleast we have the RIGHT to protest, organize, and all you mentioned on OP.
Why don't you consider living in a tribe then.like Africa....wear no clothes..
run around do what you want, anytime.....and you don't even have to pay taxes buddy. You'll fit right in.
If you don't like the US....GTFO!!!
Simple as that.

I could continue to put you on the spot with your prior threads, but I'll cut it short. It's almost lunchtime. What? You wanna tell me what to eat too?

Listen. Never underestimate anyone.
When I was younger....I boxed. Number one rule: NEVER go into the ring thinking what that person is going to do to you, but rather what you're going to do to him.
.The other golden rule: Never fight anyone you don't know. (the quiet one is always the most dangerous....remember that)
I mean.......you're just asking for it here. I'm sorry.....but brutally honest about it.
People might find my post repugnant. Too bad.
I'm a scrapper @ heart.

As for the end of the world, blah blah blah.....perhaps your life is just as significant as a squirrel getting run over by a car. Ya...dude.
When the time is right. The world will know who I am. Trust me.
Maybe not. But atleast I'll know what I'm made of @ the end of the day.
You.? You dwell on other people.
Talking all this stuff here, but I would bet my left jewel you would be one of the first people holding out your hand looking for charity, the second you feel you can't continue with "the struggle."

Ahh yes....Cops are bad.....laws are bad....everyone's evil.
So you would prefer anarchy? No laws? What?
So the strongest survive? Prey on the weak?
Everyone fends for themselves?

Nice logic. Yet, still doesn't add up to your OP>
Catch my drift yet....

As for shutting down ATS and utilize as a "communication" tool.
Again, self centered. Maybe people come here for entertainment purposes, ever think about that? Ya nazi.

As for communicating anything when SHTF? You really think people are going to be coming here to communicate?
Share thoughts the birds and the bees......gimme a break......
They're going to be scrounging for a loaf of bread, maybe trying to feed their family instead. Not WASTING THEIR time as you put it so eloquently.....

The only action I'll be taking is watching my back for scavengers such as yourself.

Ahhhh..I know. I'm a pr*ck. But atleast I'm original. And true to my game.
Yeah we can even scrap..fine.....but the difference is I'll buy ya a drink aftawards.....to prove that Im human.

Beatens are what made me tougher anyway. Take some punches....and try to listen to other a little more respectfully in the future.
It might be the best tool you ever applied to yourself chief.
Have a listen.
Even the bad stuff. You'll become a better person, and develop a bit more wit....and insight of how this world goes around my friend.

Another thing silencer..."The authority of the state over its people, resides in its war powers."
Unfortunetaly this is how history has recorded itself over the ages, and how the world turns today. < Whether you want to fundamentally accept it or not, that's entirely up to you."



Now. PLease. Why don't you back your words up and let us all (here on ATS) know what actions YOU've taken so far to pursue your causes.
Give us some proof.....and I might just consider listening to your crybaby rants.



Have a nice day.

[edit on 21-6-2009 by Ben Niceknowinya]


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 03:58 PM by Lasheic
reply to post by Faiol



Can't change the world?

I think you should study up on the basic nature of complexity and emergence. Our society, our world... is a highly complex system composed of a multitude of other complex systems... economies, politics, resources, etc. Even down to the chemical level or beyond to the cosmic/solar system level. One of the fascinating properties of a complex system is that they are, simultaneously, both highly resistant to change and yet high fragile. You could interact with the system a hundred times and never cause major change, and yet... the identical interaction on a new try may cause radical change and fluctuation in the trends which follow.

This is why nobody can make a difference, and yet - one man can change the world. For example... how many different people have claimed to be messiahs? How many have given their claimed direct revelation of god to the masses - only to be ignored? Thousands upon thousands who's names are lost to history... who's names are lost to current events. Yet (regardless of if he was a factual or fictitious character) - it took one messiah character -Jesus Christ- to profoundly change the future of the world. This is something we can all agree upon... no matter the denomination or religion they subscribe to. There's others as well. Moses, Mohammad, Buddha, Zoroaster, etc. They've all changed the world profoundly, and unless all of the originators of all of the religions are all correct in their assertions - and so long as we have multiple different practicing religions, you cannot truly ascribe their success to outside or divine intervention.

One man CAN change the world.




And for anyone who thinks this may be hopeful for the fight against "TPTB" - complexity wouldn't really allow for the grand messianic conspiracies which often propagate here. "TPTB" is merely a blanket term for certain groups or individuals, which are always changing - and their motives are changing - both individually, at the corporation level, and with new leaders. However, ideas and inspirations are a complex system of information within this system themselves - and can be malleable, rigid, or highly successful - and then die as they simply fall out of favor without full implementation. You cannot truly predict which memes will endure, and which will fail with any real certainty.

[edit on 20-6-2009 by Lasheic]
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