reply to post by Edrick
Dear Edrick,
Firstly, my aplogies to the moderators if I have broken any rules. I assure you that my proverbial tounge is being bitten until it bleeds and, I am
aware of the rules of engagement here.
Secondly, sticking to both topic and addressing your "points" Mr. Edrick, did I ever call you a child raping, woman hating, hate filled
toroglodyte"? No, I certainly did not. What I said, was that woman and children are the unfortunate victims of war largely at the hand of men. I am
not religious, nor and I trying to derail this into a religious debate on sex slaves, but here are some quotes from the bible and koran to support the
sexist notions towards women in "holy" texts that support what I mentioned earlier:
From the bible:
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought
her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.
And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.
If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in
any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
From the ahadeeth:
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459:
Narrated Ibn Muhairiz:
I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out
with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy
became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus
before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul
(till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."
For the record, I am not dismissing honorbale soldiers who fight valiantly to defend their nations and people...be they male or female. Say what you
will about me as a female ex-soldier, but I am mightly proud of my contribution to my nation and my people, and I am likewise proud of the soldiers
both male and female that served with honor beside me, as well as those that were before me and after me that are honorable. I just have issue with
reading things like this, that happen at the hands of men, against women in war. This is NOT men "laying their lives on the line to protect and
defend women". This is subjugation, terror and oppression:
www.msnbc.msn.com...
Then you have the gaul to say they survive. Well, at what cost? Again, I stand firm that you see these atrocities as little more than collateral
damage in your mind. It's more than wrong, it's disgusting and non-human (the acts mentioned, not you).
I never said chivalrous, self-sacrificing, honorable men do not exist. It's a fact that they do. In fact, in a previous post, I plainly stated that
despite the men that wounded my heart, I love men and refuse to paint them all with the same brush due to my bad experiences in the past. Please
don't forgive my opinion, but you seem to have a chip on your shoulder against women to me.
In the interest of being civil, I won't even address your final comments directed to me. On topic, I will say that I do feel that women are generally
more objectified, oppressed and underprivileged than men in most parts of the world, and not given chance to reach their full potential. As human
beings I believe everyone deserves that chance.