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World 'watching Iran', Obama says

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posted on Jun, 19 2009 @ 11:39 PM
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World 'watching Iran', Obama says


news.bbc.co.uk

US President Barack Obama has told Iran that "the world is watching", after its supreme leader demanded an end to post-election demonstrations.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said protest leaders would be responsible for any "bloodshed" if the rallies continued.

The ayatollah backs President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's re-election, but other candidates are contesting the results.

More rallies are expected, and the powerful Guardian Council is due to meet the president's rivals.

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jun, 19 2009 @ 11:39 PM
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Is this what we call tough talk & diplomacy nowadays?

Is it past the stage where we had to make sure we don't give the regime a chance to try and arouse anti-western sentiment. After all we saw yesterday that Khamenei will try and enforce extreme anti-western sentiment whatever we say, however mild our words are.

Time for Obama to condemn this barbaric regime now, or wait until the massacres begin shortly? Surely if this weekend brings more deaths we have a duty to condemn, and by that I don't just mean Obama, I mean all Western leaders.

The house and congress in the US already have unanimously except for one, is that Obama or does Obama not vote in these? Sorry my knowledge of US politics is not the greatest.

news.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)


[edit on 20-6-2009 by john124]



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:17 AM
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Obama must have seen the post written by Walkswithfish only yesterday (I think).

Honestly though, I am glad he finally said SOMETHING, instead of sitting around the White House chowing down popcorn while watching the footage only he is privy to.



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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And who's watching north korea obama???



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by LostNemesis
Obama must have seen the post written by Walkswithfish only yesterday (I think).

Honestly though, I am glad he finally said SOMETHING, instead of sitting around the White House chowing down popcorn while watching the footage only he is privy to.


Yea it is something at least, he's getting the hang of it at last. I find it amusing that every member bar 1 of the house & congress say strong condemnation is now appropriate, yet Obama has his own method of gearing up condemnation.



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by ziggy1706
And who's watching north korea obama???


Oh did you not realise Obama has eyes in the back of his head as well, he's so magnificient can watch both at once!


Yea the navy and air force can keep tabs on N.Korea. I'm sure if the situation escalates they can prevent it from spiralling out of complete control. If it does then they can mop up the mess quite nicely!



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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Has anyone found a live webcam for Iran. I've tried over 20 and all of them are not found or off link. Where are all the underground webcams at??



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by Alchemst7
Has anyone found a live webcam for Iran. I've tried over 20 and all of them are not found or off link. Where are all the underground webcams at??


I expect the regime will have clamped down on these in public areas. I suppose it's feasible for Iranian's to set them up in their homes or like you say underground (hopefully not actually "underground" though
), but they may not see it as a priority if it's not being recorded.

I'm sure they have enough on their hands just trying to survive with the expected violent clampdown today. With no media coverage there we have to rely for now on twitter & videos/pics posted on youtube and accessible sites.

Heard there was a google earth petition to get the satellite photos updated so we can see what's going on from above almost real-time. But I highly doubt google could do this even if they wanted to, I doubt they own the satellites (not that they couldn't afford them). They probably just borrow them. But worth a try to ask. If you don't ask you definitely won't get.

Good luck finding a working webcam!

[edit on 20-6-2009 by john124]



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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That's it? ..That's all he has to say?

Geez, looks like someone finally fixed his teleprompter

The idiot is a master of the obvious.

Hey Obama, the world is also watching you and waiting for some type of reaction.
Be a real leader and step up to the plate, without the use of the teleprompter.



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 01:02 AM
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Its interesting how many live webcams there were in Palestine in November/December when Israel invaded them, and here in Iran, I can't find anything.



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by Alchemst7
reply to post by john124
 


Its interesting how many live webcams there were in Palestine in November/December when Israel invaded them, and here in Iran, I can't find anything.


Surely that just demonstrates how much the clampdown in Iran is affecting everyone, and shows us how this regime operates. Interesting, but not really surprising. The same with the pointless rhetoric and lies coming from them as well.

I'm sure Israel didn't have intentions to hide anything, and probably tried to minimise propaganda and ensure that the reality on the ground was well known.

Don't give up though!

[edit on 20-6-2009 by john124]



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 02:30 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if this was a CIA funded flashpoint so the US can invade and "save democracy". If any movement including this one is able to take control without outside military assistance it is the real deal, if not then it's the usual suspects playing in their favorite sand pit.



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 04:25 AM
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Obama is just waiting for the right moment to invade Iran to bring about "democracy". Just a while ago he was ready to attack them. No one finds it strange how the MSM is covering the whole thing? They're trying to gain your sympathy so that when they invade they can rape the country of its resources and use democracy as a cover.



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 10:22 AM
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The world is watching, watching what leaks out through YouTube, twitter and other sources that the Iranian regime has so far been unable to completely block.

The world is watching the leader of the free world cower, watching as a people oppressed for decades rise up against tyranny, and the silence from the US president is deafening.

The world IS watching with some excitement, as if it is some form of distant entertainment. Everyone wants to see the conflict from afar. Get out the popcorn and enjoy the show!

I wish the Iranian people all the best, they should take comfort that their struggle has become the greatest spectator event of the new millenium. The world will stand by and watch as they are beaten down, bloodied and some are killed until they once again return to submissiveness and servitude to the tyrannical regime which is now poised to crush them and their spirit.

Thank you Mr. President for the clarity of your personal position, and for speaking on behalf of the world that is watching.

[edit on 20-6-2009 by Walkswithfish]



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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Are you watching Mr. President?

Iran security forces use tear gas, clubs on protesters, witnesses say


www.cnn.com...


TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Security forces made "a very large show of force" in midtown and southeastern Tehran, using tear gas and clubs to beat back protesters as clashes erupted during the unrest, witnesses told CNN.

This comes as demonstrators emerged on city streets to protest last week's elections in defiance of supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's Friday pronouncement that protests must end.

Police fired guns in the air, and Iran's Press TV also reported the use of water cannons to disperse protesters.


Enjoy the show.


Should be quite entertaining.


[edit on 20-6-2009 by Walkswithfish]



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 11:38 AM
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Most the net has been disconected through Iran per news i saw yesterday, the little bit that did get out as far as video was basicaly from cell phones , sent to friends that had net in other countries.



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:01 PM
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Is it our place to force democracy on other nations? The U.S. is spread thin enough, N. korea is beating the air, our GDP is in the dumps, poverty is on the rise.... We need to work on our internal issues and stop being the shoulder for the world to lean on. The U.S. is hated by everyone it tries to help, those it doesn't and those we decide to "liberate". So Iran is in the grips of a revolution to overturn the revolution that lead to this revolution.... what are we "supposed" to do?



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by Jimi2012
what are we "supposed" to do?


Watch, along with the rest of the world.

Learn your lessons and consider yourselves warned. Democracy is an illusion... The Iranians have woken up to that fact.

It's too bad that they were the first to rise up against the false promise of democracy.

When this show is over, go back to sleep, but do not forget, rebellion against any democracy will not be tolerated.

Your votes count, when they are the votes they want!

[edit on 20-6-2009 by Walkswithfish]



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Petchy29
Obama is just waiting for the right moment to invade Iran to bring about "democracy". Just a while ago he was ready to attack them. No one finds it strange how the MSM is covering the whole thing? They're trying to gain your sympathy so that when they invade they can rape the country of its resources and use democracy as a cover.


To be honest the MSM was very slow at getting to the real issues here, and their coverage has lacked until the past couple of days.

I do agree media is influenced by government, but I don't see it happening as much here.

When the media does concentrate on certain news stories what makes you think it's not just because it's newsworthy. I mean is a revolution in Iran is surely newsworthy without government telling them to cover it.


I mean next you'll be surprised the MSM is covering any war, maybe it's just that they are actually doing their job.

I don't think we could get away with stealing Iranian oil, but for us to trade with them as a democratic nation selling oil to the free world. What's wrong with that, it's just capitalism!

China just about literally steal resources from African countries and builds them one or two schools in return that cost about 1/10000th of the value of the resources mined. You could call that raping I suppose! But for them the resources are worth nothing, and 1 or 2 schools are priceless.


[edit on 20-6-2009 by john124]



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 12:45 PM
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Frankly, I think Obama's approach is dead-on. We've just come from 8yrs of an administration that was all too quick to stick its nose in other country's business. And where did that get us? Villified everywhere. It's highly unlikely what we're seeing in Iran now would have even occurred under the last US regime. People there would have been far less likely to support a candidate with more moderate views of the west. Same with Lebanon. Obama is attempting to show concern without antagonism, alienation and the holier-than-thou posture of the past. And this is LONG overdue in my sight.

We tried it the other way and everything went to crap. Nothing good came of it at all. So let's try it this way for a bit, eh? Our international reputation (apart from our economic mess which came from the last guys) is improving just about everywhere. That's a good thing.

And look at these people in Iran. This takes courage. These people are walking the walk. Literally putting their lives on the line to change what they see as a corrupt government. They want a more moderate place in world politics. Yet so many of you here on ATS are all too eager to nuke these people because Imadinnerjacket has a woody for a nuke. Maybe, just maybe we let the Iranians sort this mess out. Otherwise alot of very courageous, very honorable people will be unnecessarily sacrificed.



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