The Patriot

(Mel Gibson is weighing a Chair 3:33 minutes into the movie)






Godzilla... this happens twice in the movie.

(Big hand on 9, small hand on 11)





Independence Day...

They only show that computer screen for like 3 seconds...




So for a guy that made a movie about Stargate Pyramids... The Pyramids in 10,000 BC... and now a movie about 2012, he sure did get lucky with the hidden 9-11 symbolism in his films that came out before the events of September 11th.

Coincidence?

Are you suggesting he's some kind of prophet, or can tell the future, and isn't just a bad director. I think you're looking into this too much. People see what they want to see and all that. I think it's just a small coincidence.

Yes, I think it is only a coincidence. Just like the Simpsons coincidence.



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I always thought that simpsons one was just to freaky. I mean the twin towers are the 11, how obvious is that. Not to mention the big new york written there.

New York
9/11
Twin towers.

Incredible coincidense.

As for these movies in the OP, I wonder if we were to pick say June 12, if we could find this many signs for 6/12.

PS the Indendence Day one is pretty cool even has 01 for the year. I wonder though, was this not a count down clock? How long was it on screen? The 01 for the second was obviously only on screen for one second lol

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. I believe there would be a lot of very influential people in politics, entertainment, and live news MSM, with ties to intelligence agency programs like the old "Project Mockingbird" that was started in the 50's or 60's and then just expanded upon and catered to since then.

What's the purpose? To create emphasis, significance, and mold your reality into theirs. That's what it's really about: controlling you. Just like anything else. Whether we consciously remember these numbers or not, all information we are ever exposed to even for a second can be recalled through subconscious processes, and there is a lot of psychological evidence to this as well as strategies that make use of this knowledge (like some tricks Derren Brown performs). TPTB are always trying to impregnate your mind with ideas that are in some way beneficial to them, whether it's to encourage you to buy a certain product, think and see things in a certain way.

In this case the point would be to create a deep psychological association between "9," "11" and even New York City and the Twin Towers in the Simpsons example. In another example posted above, it's the numbers on a bomb: associating "9:11" with impending disaster, a bomb exploding. Even the number "911" is the emergency number used all over the country, regardless of whether that number or the date Sept. 11th were derived first. The first implication of the emergency number 911 was in 1968 if I remember correctly, which coincided with the planning and construction of the Twin Towers. But this is all a lot of talk for people who understand the mechanism and not something you go around trying to prove to people who don't understand.

I'm interested in what his 2012 movie is about, though I'm kind of afraid that I don't really want to know.

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It is strange that the guy who is involved with the 2012 movie also has thrown those little easter eggs so to speak in his movies.

The preview for that movie is pretty cool too.

Things like that really don't sway me towards thinking "prophet", but at times, do make me wonder if TPTB are involved and perhaps trying to desensitize the masses or even test reactions to how the masses would react to planned future events. What better place to hide something than in plain sight?

I always wondered if these "coincidences" aren't meant to simply condition people to what is going to or has happened. It's proven that the more people see or hear about something, the less outraged they become.

I've noticed that even children's programming has been pushing UFO-type story lines.

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what movie is that?

Up until your post, I was just saying "yeah, syncronycity. nothing here".

yours blows it out of the park!!!! It might as well have a HUGE signature that says,"we are from the government. we did it. and we endorse this commercial".

Thanks ! s&f!

It's memetic manipulation of emotional responses, conditioning if you will.

More than a secret communications system what we probably have is manipulation of ideas so fear can be invoked with a simple formula, like "911". Then fear can be used as a control mechanism. It's at it's heart some form of pavlovian conditioning. Is it coincidence that the police call number is 911? That now we have fear tied to authority?

Emmerich could be part of the illuminati or a mason or something along those lines. It all ties back to english scientific establishments and the great game of trying to control the world. Alex Jones has it mostly right.

The solution is to see it for what it is, then the spell loses it's effect and people can get on with their lives. This is what the "Wake up" meme is all about.

If whenever people see 911 used as control they think "wake up!" then the spell is broken. Remember this.

Hi everyone!

I've been an avid reader at ATS for 2 years but haven't yet posted anything. I just joined this morning to contribute this little bit of intrigue to add to the conversation ... check out the 9/11 "coincidences" in MANY past movies and TV shows ...

They're all posted in screen cap form at vyzygoth.com...

Keep posting awesome stuff! You guys are great!

they are both coincedinces, and mind control....

What happened in The Simpsons? Sorry i have dial up and cant look up any vids about it or i would. I really dont know the significance of these numbers. Maybe 9/11 is really supposed to be 911, emergency, and those numbers possibly set off some kind of switch in our mind to worry a bit adding more sensationalism to the movie?

Here is my "911" coffee mug. I bought it year 2000. There is big city view (New York?) and aeroplane flying low altitude.




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The fraternity of Hollywood has an agenda, a self-serving agenda which is not concerned with the welfare of the people or the planet.

Throughout its inconsiderate history, many symbolic patterns have continuously emerged from the dark depths of Hollywood’s shallow works. If one is discriminating, one will recognize that this symbolism is more than just chance. If carefully examined within the context of those who have created them, it becomes clear that these symbols have been embedded with a purpose in mind.

It might be suggested, that any apparent coincidence, gives the people justification to search deeply for an answer to the question, exactly what is their significance?

Hollywood, it’s time for you to go away; the Internet will now replace you. The people are infinitely more creative. Like a dinosaur, you will soon become extinct. With the Internet we can now begin to repair the damage that you have caused out of selfishness, and start the process of cleaning up the soiled litter that you have irresponsibly left behind.


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great link! thanks for posting, and welcome to ATS!!

also, check this out!

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welcome to ats and a great contribution to this thread. dont be such a lurker and post more to help make this site a greater place.

ive never seen the smb one but freaky if i may say so.



[edit on 20-6-2009 by elitegamer23]

Another possibility is that 9-11-01 was always known by TPTB as the 'prophesied' date that the take-over begins. Maybe even known for centuries before the event.. maybe some kind of cosmic alignment or other energetic emergence was known to them long before it happened, a time when their actions would have the highest probability of success, & was being prepared for, for a long time..

Therefor any mention or usage of 9-11 (before the event) was a kind of memetic foreshadowing, including the creation of the phone# 911 as the 'Emergency!' code for the masses.

None of this was ever meant to be consciously understood or acknowledged, mind you.. It was all for the subconscious mind, or maybe even the spirit itself. But now after the fact we are able to look back & see these purposely placed, totemic statements of their dark intent. The image of Neo's passport in The Matrix, to me, is the most dramatic example I've seen so far.

There could also be some ritualistic elements at play here... There are some who believe that a very important component to a successful blood-sacrifice ritual is the brazen declaration to the sacraficial victim, of what exactly you are going to do.. telling them ahead of time, planting the seed within their mind, so they are (at least unconsciously) aware of what's going to happen to them as the knife comes down. Some believe that's actually the crucial part of the ritual, energetically & vibrationally.
That might explain why many events in the world seem to have been warned about, if you have the eyes to see it.

Having said all that, it could also just be the holographic-synchronistic nature of the universe itself, showing us the bread-crumbs of coincidence that tie us all together & in which such a major traumatic event would surely have a resonation that would bleed out from the event itself, the harmonics of which would be seen/felt in the past & future.

In other words, just a coincidence..?