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Originally posted by Sundancer
reply to post by SGTChas
I'm so sorry you lost your hero...
Really guys, I'm not in here to hate on any of you, I'm just trying to make the point that somewhere down the line the military became about protecting the interests of the rich instead of protecting our freedom. When there are threads that get action started on ATS fearing that the US military will start gunning down her own civilian brothers like they do in China, it becomes an even bigger concern.
Once again they will do as they're ordered to protect the rich.
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Tayesin
You need to brush up on your history. There have been three times that the US military has defended US soil. The Revolutionary War (as we consider the birth of the nation to have occurred on July 4th, 1776), the War of 1812 (the British set fire to the White House during this conflict), and of course WWII (Pearl Harbor).
Originally posted by Silver Shadow
Are soldiers who protect America bad?
No, definitely not !!!
Are soldiers that bomb invade, torture foreigners that are not, and never have been the slightest threat to America, are just DUMB VICTIMS.
Since when was Iraq a threat to the American homeland?
What is this threat exactly ?
What is the purpose of the illegal invasion of Iraq ?
What is the objective ?
Where is the moral right for this ?
Sorry guys, but America will go down in history with Imperial Japan, and Nazi Germany as war criminals and losers.
America has committed crimes against international law, against common justice, and against God's laws.
That has nothing at all to do with PROTECTING AMERICA.
Originally posted by Silver Shadow
Ah, yes, the military sure saved America from 9/11 eh ?
Where were all the fighter jets ?
Oh , they were all stood down. Funny eh ?
Sounds like your glorious brave military were part of the problem.
Originally posted by DarrylGalasso
reply to post by network dude
Second, you do not seem to remember you history beyond Vietnam very well:
I think if you read back a little further you will find an event called the Revolutionary war.
So in fact as you said in the OP, "Be careful how you answer, you could just start an army." Yup and it was done before to overthrow an oppressive government.
[edit on 6/20/2009 by DarrylGalasso]
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer, The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die, I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away"; But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play, O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be, They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls, But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide, O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.
Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll, O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.
We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too, But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints, Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind, There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind, O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.
You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face.
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please; An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees! -- Rudyard Kipling
Originally posted by Lichter daraus
Great post,and i agree. My grandpa who recently passed away was in vietnam. i respect him and what he did for this country. i have good friend in Iraq right now and i respect him for what he is doing though i do not agree with the war at all. Thank you to all the men and women who put there life on the line for our freedom. It just makes me sick how some people treat our soldiers...