Are the soldiers who protect America bad?, page 14
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reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 04:46 PM by jerico65
Originally posted by Drexl
All you got is . .. have you been mortared etc, blah blah , in a cyclic repetative form throughout that whole post . That is the way you types work, accept your notion of the righteousness of these so called purveyors of freedom , lest you have been there yourself to say otherwise .


Well, probably because myself and other that have been in the service have a bit of experience in this area. You don't see me going down to the Burger King where you work and knocking the burgers off the grills, do you?

So, before you pass judgement on someone's behavior in that situation, you need to maybe walk a mile in their boots.

Originally posted by Drexl
You think just because some half wit has put themselves into a position to have a mortar shell land by them , they are the only ones that ought to have a say on the rights and wherefores a shell should have landed by them at all .


Oh, now their "half-wits", huh? That's precious.

Originally posted by Drexl
It don't work that way , genius, in fact , the last person to decide the rights and wrongs of such an event is the doofus that get killed or injured by one .


Now it's "doofus"! Sweet!!

Since they are on the receiving end of the attack, I think they are the first ones to have a word about their actions, not someone who's a "Monday Morning Quarterback".


Originally posted by Drexl
Who said it was a mortar attack anyway ?, I did . You want to take my word for it that it was a mortar attack at all ?

Nothing you say detracts from the fact , that these homeboys are not exactly the picture you want to represent of the fearless fighting for freedom crusaders that you would like the US public to envisage.


Well, that might be accurate, but don't go thinking that's what happens all the time. You'll be sadly mistaken.

Not that you'll ever go and find out.

Originally posted by Drexl
Doesn't matter that I'm not dumb enough to go fighting corporations and Israeli's battles for them.


Whatever.


[edit on 24-6-2009 by jerico65]


reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 05:11 PM by Drexl
reply to post by jerico65


Here we are on the subject of troops in Iraq, and you do a whole copy and paste to bring no more to the subject than burger bars . Unfortunately , I cannot help you in that direction, not all of us come from obviously the small town / farm environment that you are aquainted with where the choices are limited thus.


reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 06:29 PM by Drexl
reply to post by jerico65


I am wary of replying to you . You offer nothing of substance to reply too . That really was all your post consisted of , burger bars . I think I can just about manage your linguistic dexterity . I will refrain from replying further to you , should this exchange continue in a similar fashion.


reply posted on 24-6-2009 @ 10:51 PM by nenothtu
reply to post by TheWalkingFox


What world did you grow up on? Can't figure out who your enemy is at all, or is it that you don't recognize them until they plant their flag in your own front yard?

"Colonial Wars" by nature colonize the country in question. I can't think of any colonial wars America has fought since they themselves were colonies.

"Vietnam" wasn't a threat to the US, true enough. Our enemy there WAS a threat to the US, however. I found that out later, in Central America. Same people, different eyes. Matter of fact, a BUNCH of weapons, M16's specifically, were captured in Morazon in El Salvador, shipped there across the Golfo de Fonseca from Nicaragua. When the serial numbers were traced, it was found that they came from... TA DA! Vietnam. I don't care how you chop it up, a movement heading your way, with the stated goal of ENDING you, conquering every patch of land it encounters on the way, is a THREAT. If you don't stop it there, it might have more momentum than you can handle when it gets HERE. Same people, different eyes.

Only a fool would prefer to tear up his own country to tearing up the country of his enemy.

A "domino effect" was in play there too. The same domino effect that leftists so loved to deride in Southeast Asia as "nonexistent". Tell the Cambodians and Laotians that it was no-existent. They might beg to differ.

I didn't agree with going into Iraq when we did, but it would have had to have been done eventually anyhow. My only gripe was with the timing. It didn't make sense to me to take focus from the more imminent threat, in Afghanistan. Yes, I said imminent threat. The Taliban was providing aid, comfort, and refuge to Al Qaida, who you may recall are our enemies, They are one with Al Qaida in thought and mindset. That makes them our enemies too.

Colonial war in Afghanistan? What could they possibly have there that would make it worthwhile to colonize? Have you ever BEEN to Afghanistan? I'll tell ya what, I never dreamed of building my summer house there.

Finally: "the rise in terrorism due to Afghanistan / iraq, actually killed more Americans and made us less safe". That's bunk. It's a "talking point" to discuss over glasses of kool aid.

You want ice with that kool aid?


reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 12:33 AM by nenothtu
Originally posted by maddogron
after reading everyones thread here, you all are missing the point about the military. The Neo-cons are brilliant and have/will blindside everyone with the "marching orders".. BLACKWATER is a great way to bypass all laws, rights, and media. It is a huge operation!!!! I am amazed at the lack of insight by the media. professional mercenaries are in place, from chile, columbia, mexico, and us... navy seals, special forces, rangers are all employed AND paid a very handsome amount of money $655 per day for the typical grunt... and they are hiring like crazy right now. I am truely amazed how much veterans are being hired for services. the typical us soldier has too much "rule of engagement" to be used... mercenaries are free to do whatever... look at New orleans.. there were incidents there... keep your eyes open for this push..


Another slap at mercenaries.

I will wipe your mud and spit from myself, and keep pushing forward, ignoring you as I go.

I will do that because I can, and I don't require your approval, nor do I require you to select 'enemies' for me. I am able to do that for myself.

I will do it because I am NOT what you claim. Your labels mean nothing to me, and do NOT change the contents of the package.

I will do it not for you, nor your government, nor your corporations. I will do it for my friends, my family. I will do it for my son.

And I will do it for 'mercenaries' I remember, who died in faraway places, in the hope that you wouldn't have to do it here. Men who died fighting enemies that your government, under Carter, supported in a backhanded sort of way, who died fighting the very evil that your own government welcomed and supported.

I will do it because your input isn't required for me to do what needs done.




Epitaph on an Army of Mercenaries

These, in the day when heaven was falling,

The hour when earth's foundations fled,

Followed their mercenary calling,

And took their wages, and are dead.



Their shoulders held the sky suspended;

They stood, and earth's foundations stay;

What God abandoned, these defended,

And saved the sum of things for pay.

--A.E. Housman

My big, tough, evil ass sits here typing this with tears in my eyes, not because of your opinion, but rather because of the memory of the men you malign.

nenothtu out

[edit on 2009/6/25 by nenothtu]


reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 02:46 AM by silo13
reply to post by nenothtu


Neno,

Epitaph on an Army of Mercenaries

These, in the day when heaven was falling,

The hour when earth's foundations fled,

Followed their mercenary calling,

And took their wages, and are dead.



Their shoulders held the sky suspended;

They stood, and earth's foundations stay;

What God abandoned, these defended,

And saved the sum of things for pay.

--A.E. Housman


Two words that say so little and mean so much.

Thank you.

gracie

[edit on 25-6-2009 by silo13]
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