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reply posted on 19-6-2009 @ 04:07 PM by john124
Originally posted by stumason
reply to
post by Mike_A



Haha, me too .. I found it quite laughable, but to be told that you the most "traitorous and evil" is a badge of honour!

I have nothing but support for the Iranian people, I do not wish them any harm and only good things, but if they get led by the nose by this man into a confrontation with the west, I'll leave this typical British comment for them:

COME AND HAVE A GO, IF YOU THINK YOU'RE HARD ENOUGH

I keep hoping for some kind of catalyst in Iran that lead to a revolution, methinks the Rev. Guards and Basijj shooting protesters might do the trick. There's plenty of weaponry floating about in iran and it wouldn't be too far fetched for a movement to take shape.


Exactly

I think this is just a ploy by Khamenei to just throw other old issues into the fray, to try and distract the world from what's going on over there. He's just digging himself a bigger hole though!

The British Empire is in the past, we don't get black people saying "death to England" because of the slave trade. Things which are in the past need to stay that way and move on. Khamenei is just using this as an excuse to threaten the West, he never has anything legitimate to throw at us, so he just spouts more lies and bring past issues which are now non-existant to the front.

If an Iranian academic wants a reasonable discussion about the British empires previous involvement in Iran, we would welcome this. But to use past issues nonsensically shows the regime for how pathetic they really are!


reply posted on 19-6-2009 @ 04:14 PM by stumason
reply to post by andy1033



Wow, he came back for once!

Andy, as has been explained to you countless times before, if anything like what you describe has happened to you, then there are avenues to pursue. You claim to be harrassed by the Police, but make no complaints to the IPCC. You could hire a lawyer, you could contact Liberty. You coudl do alot of things to expose what you claim, but do nothing.In fact, when you first started posting this drivel, I told you about the IPCC and you had never even heard of them!

Yet you carry on with this nonsensical whining about non-descript accusations, yet do nothing about it. Ergo, it can be safely assumed you somewhat unhinged.

Secondly, why do you think they are doing this? What makes you so damned important? You claim we don't live in the real world, but it seems that it is in fact you who is not totally present on this earthly realm half the time.


reply posted on 19-6-2009 @ 04:51 PM by stumason
reply to post by The Last Man on Earth



Ah right, I see what you're saying now! Yes, i think all four of the home nations are a warlike bunch and it probably is quite an honour to be the "top dog", as it were. But that was really down to the resources available to the English, not least manpower. However, the Scots invaded us more times than we did them and lets not forget it was them who asked to join us in a Union, not us conquering them!


reply posted on 19-6-2009 @ 05:06 PM by The Last Man on Earth
Originally posted by stumason
reply to
post by The Last Man on Earth



Ah right, I see what you're saying now! Yes, i think all four of the home nations are a warlike bunch and it probably is quite an honour to be the "top dog", as it were. But that was really down to the resources available to the English, not least manpower. However, the Scots invaded us more times than we did them and lets not forget it was them who asked to join us in a Union, not us conquering them!


Yes indeed, and we owe much to the mighty men of Northumberland for fighting the Scots off!

While doubtless England was privy to more resources than it's Celtic neighbours, it wasn't just that that enabled the English to come out on top. There is something of the Roman spirit within the English - we seemed to really want to win rather than just having a good scrap. While none can doubt the bravery of the Celtic nations, they didn't seem to have the pig-headed English administrative skills when actually in the field.

Manpower isn't so much the issue, IMO, as when you look at the Scottish invasions of England, you tend to find the Scots outnumbered the English armies most of the time (Neville's Cross, for example), and normally they were just bill and longbow levies.

But yes, we did indeed invite them into the Union, which was by far the most sensible way of going about things when you're talking about the Scottish. You can conquer and conquer and still find yourself on the wrong end of a rebellion (just like the Welsh and Irish incidentally), so it was definitely wisest to treat them as equals and point them at, well, everyone else before letting them loose!
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