Big police operation planned for Stonehenge summer solstice, page 4
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reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 08:02 AM by CX
Originally posted by Reading
Wow it is seriously messed up people making excuses for police brutality.

I was also at the G20 protest's kettled for hour's for no apparent reason ,I also remember seeing ian thomlinson on the floor after being pushed by a nazi-esque cop.

Fact of the matter is if on that day NOT one single policeman was present it would have been an amazing day, The atmosphere was like nothing i had seen before.

I went by myself and ended up talking to a loads of like minded people, the atmosphere was amazing

If the police had not been there it would of been one giant street party/carnival.

Untill the police started kettling and hitting people it was amazing.

What do you expect people to do when you act like that towards them?

BooHoo one window got smashed! what about the bodies of hundred's of INNOCENT people? But no the media concentrated on the window of a bank getting smashed!

It worked nicely though judging by some people's attitude's on this thread


Hi Reading, although my opinion maybe differed from yours about some of the events of the G20 protests, i did however enjoy your reporting and input....so a question if i may....

I'm not blinkered enough to see that the mahority of the protesters would have stayed peacefull if there had been no police presense that day, but what about the ones that were indeed there for trouble?

You can't deny that there were elements, as there always are that go to cause mayhem and damage. They are not there for a party or carnival atmosphere, and often drag innocent protesters into the chaos.

Can you not at least agree that the police were needed there for the likes of this minority?

Like i say, i agree with you that a lot went on that day that was completely unneccessary, i just can't accept that some actions by protesters should have been left alone.

CX.


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 09:34 AM by hadriana
reply to post by funky monk


I dunno, I think it will be a repeat of the Battle of Beanfield Hill if they are not careful.
Peaceful people make such convenient punching bags.
www.youtube.com...

Footage starts about 4 minutes in.

[edit on 20-6-2009 by hadriana]


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 10:35 AM by paraphi
reply to post by hadriana


At the end of the day these "New Age Travellers" (and it was a bit of a fashion statement in 1985) had to be tackled. The Battle of the Beanfield at Stonehenge was down to these New Agers insisting on holding a festival (which over the years had become increasingly anarchic and destructive) on the site of Stonehenge, a prehistoric monument.

I happen to think that the police were heavy handed - but I am sure the Stones had seen worse. In defence of the police, they were charged with preventing these people from breaching the exclusion zone (legally created) and that is what they did. The New Agers knew that the police could not let them in.

Hard core travellers are bad news for communities and bring a host of problems, not least organised crime. Most New Age Travellers have gone back to their day jobs.

Regards



reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 03:26 PM by Bunken Drum
reply to post by Acidtastic
Well, before anyone starts panicking, old bill will be there in more force than usual, but hey, that's cos it's a weekend: there'll be more people. I was @the beanfield: 17yrs old, just hitched there with Rainbow Paul; got away with only a thump by hiding in the hedge old bill came through. Walked over fields to Avebury. Yeah, it was truly f**ked up, but they've been pretty gentle these last few years. Still, I miss the days when their appearance would prompt a shout of "Pigs on site!" & people would surround them to make sure they didnt dare try to arrest anyone for selling cannabis &/or hallucinogens. Free festivals dont need policing, as was amply demonstrated @the 86 impromptu gathering @High Wycomb when the brewcrew were confronted by hundreds of people over a spate of theft: people took their stuff back & no violence ensued. Similar @Castlemoreton. We are not Americans: nobody is going to pull a gun & kill people unless they themselves are in serious fear. Old bill knows that too. The twattings we got in the 80s were politically motivated; the last thing this govt needs is another brutality scandal so close after a pounding @recent elections. Go, enjoy yourself! It's a bit bizarre cos there's no agenda: all the better to smell you with my dear! Oh f*k, blown my cover! Ok I'm there. Come on in, the grass is greener/water warm etc. & be amazed you can get online @such an old place!


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 04:07 PM by Reading
reply to post by CX



Yeah i must admit. My post is pretty one sided....My fault


I agree there does need to be a certain amount of police presense,But not hundred's of cops dressed in riot gear who have been breifed for week's and training for more.

I think that was the main problem at the G20 the police had been conditioned over a period of week's, Superiors telling them to get ready for the major trouble's at the protests, And as soon as one thing sparked the whole fire went up!

I would have alot more time for the police if they were like the police of old my mum and others told me about, The one's that know you by first name basis and actaully care about what is happening in the community, police that are not trying to hit an arrest qouta for the month.

I have met some amazing police officers like that even when i got arrested for writing on the vigil for ian thomlinson one of the policeman dragged me aside and told me how he thought the law was an arse! (exact words)

He asked me what i was doing with the people who i was with and that i seemed like a clever lad,I have more respect for that guy than a crazy batton weilding asshat!


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 04:08 PM by hadriana
reply to post by brokenheadphonez


I think some people like to think of them as dead sites.
Same with temple of Zeus. If people want to worship there, still, they are not dead.


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 05:14 AM by Bunken Drum
reply to post by Reading
It went off a treat! Shame about the clouds but such a big happy crowd was excellent! Next year... Yeah, it'll probably not be as big but it'll be sweet anyway. Make it a personal commitment.


reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 03:11 AM by ItsallCrazy
reply to post by Kandinsky


Cheers and that was all I was trying to do, identify the fact that people will be causin grief there and it just ain't really the place for it.

I've been a lot of festivals and people are comparing this to Glastonbury.. the difference being those festivals are designed for people who want to spend the week gettin wrecked!

Eye of Horus, greetings to you too! Think I'll give the bass ale a miss though.. more of a lager man

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