Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by badmedia
These kinds of "miracles" are just things manipulated into getting people accept things.
They ARE miracles and if they happen then it is lending proof to the holy life of the person, that they are a good example of a Christian. Any
'manipulation' that is taking place is God's work.
These are just not the kind of things that are a reflection of God. Wisdom, understanding, knowledge - these are things that are signs of god.
When people rely on these types of events to make their decisions, then it's not about what they understand, it doesn't give wisdom and there is
know knowledge in it. As such, it is a tool meant to get people to accept something as fact. You are treating the event as being an authority to
be accepted.
If god just wanted you to accept such things, then you would have been born accepting them.
I have no idea what that means.
Well, I say this all the time, but I'll say it again. There is a difference between accepting things as true, and understanding what is true.
Acceptance is useless, as they are still ignorant and do not understand.
The blind man can accept the sky is blue. But he does not understand what that really means. Because he is blind. Only if he is not blind will he
understand what blue is, or that the sky is blue.
Anyone can accept that 1+1=2 is true. Anyone. But unless they understand how to add, then it is useless to them. The man who runs around yelling
1+1=2 is just as the blind as the man who doesn't know to say that. 1+1=2 is true, but if he does not understand then he doesn't know how to apply
it to his life.
Like in psalm 82. Notice that it starts out with those who "accept" the wicked. And because they accept, they do not understand and so they walk
on in darkness.
And of course, in Proverbs 8 it says - these things are plain to him that understands, and talks that god will fill their treasures with real riches
if they find them earlier. Real riches more valuable than choice gold. Wisdom, knowledge and understanding.
Understanding is in itself something which is only possible due to the father being within them. AI in programs for example have no soul, the father
is not within them and they only work in the same nature as this world, action and reaction. They can not understand. Easy to make the program
accept.
How does one understand hot and cold? Because they have experienced both. You can't understand the difference between the 2 without experiencing
both. You could accept you were a certain temperature and there were others, but you couldn't understand it.
This is also expressed in genesis, with the tree of knowledge. To know both good and evil, and to thus gain understanding of them.
So I by default reject anything which leads to acceptance rather than understanding.
Proverbs 8
1Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
2She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
4Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
5O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
6Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
7For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
10Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
11For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
12I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
13The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
[edit on 20-6-2009 by badmedia]
