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Hmmm, maybe he IS THE MESSIAH
Originally posted by StopComplaining
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains )
Originally posted by xxpigxx
reply to post by drwizardphd
Your facts are wrong. Do more digging.
A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.
Originally posted by drwizardphd
That's the thing though.
It already has been handled. The people who uphold these theories are never going to accept any evidence he presents, and its mostly due to a widespread internet mythos surrounding the issue.
There are people who claim the certificate he has presented is a forgery. This has been debunked numerous times. See the links in my previous post.
There is a myth that he is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to 'lock up' his private records. This is false, the entire rumor is based on his campaign lawyer's reimbursement and a few exaggerated WorldNetDaily stories.
There are still people who think because his step-father enrolled him in elementary school under his own name (Soetoro) instead of Obama's birth name (Obama), that there is solid proof he has led double lives, even though this occurred when he was 7 years old at the time. That's right folks, Obama's step dad's last name was Soetoro! I guess that's solid proof he was leading a secret double life as a Muslim back when he was learning how to write in cursive.
This is what really aggravates me. We pride ourselves as deniers of ignorance, yet so many on this board are too ignorant to look up a few simple facts about the president's life before they rush to assume such things.
Before anyone calls me an 'obamatron', or says I'm worshiping the 'obamessiah', please note my post history and my relatively critical stance on our sitting president. There are many things about him that don't sit right with me. His citizenship, or his use of his step-father's name during his childhood, don't exactly rank up there. They're non-issues, being thrown around by those who are either too partisan, too ignorant, too lazy, or some combination of the above to actually look up the facts.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
What part of OBAMA IS A U.S. CITIZEN NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN BECAUSE HIS MOTHER WAS AMERICAN do you people not get?
If he was born on the freaking moon, he would still be a U.S. citizen by virtue of his mother, a natural U.S. citizen. PERIOD.
Unless you can prove that Obama's mother is not an American citizen, you have sweet F.A. and are just bashing away at a very lame point with absolutely no basis in reality.
How about going after his policies instead of this crap?
Originally posted by RRconservative
The Constitution says you must be a natural born citizen to be eligible to be President. If Obama was born in Kenya he is ineligible regardless of his mothers status.
The term "natural born Citizen" has never been defined by the Courts in the course of a Presidential qualification challenge. It is believed by some[who?] that this provision means that only persons born on U.S. soil to two U.S. citizens[dubious – discuss] are “natural born Citizens” of the nation and eligible to become President. There are others who believe that anyone who acquires citizenship by any means other than naturalization is a "natural born Citizen" and eligible for the Presidency. In between these extremes lie gray areas, some controversy, and various obiter dicta from the courts. A majority of commentators today argue that the Presidential Eligibility clause incorporates both common-law (jus soli) and English statutory (jus sanguinis) principles.
Originally posted by Pointman
I know some people don't like Obama but he has shown his birth certificate before.
That should clear some stuff up.
That link has a GENUINE COPY of his birth certificate.
That is rich!!! Fathers race--AFRICAN? The year there shows to be 1961. That was just a bit before Martin Luther King Jr. started to change the social order in the United States. In 1961 the fathers race would have either been notated as COLORED or as NEGRO.
African encompasses quite a few different races.If you consider the number of countries on that continent.
I have a hard time believing that birth certificate is real.
[edit on 21-6-2009 by daddyroo45]
Now lets go on to Arnie. You accuse him of a lot of things. Of course he used steroids. But the rest of those things? No proof. (And Gay porno? I'm not into it, but it doesn't make someone evil. ) Though it would be weird to have a president that directed a gay porno..
And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.