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reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 06:53 PM by total newbie

reply to post by jackieps1975

This flu stuff will be the McGuffin to start the ball rolling. School starts in a couple of months. The shots are mandatory for the children.

The flu will spread rapidly either naturally or as a consequence of the shots or both.

The population will panic. The US equity markets will tank. There will be a bank holiday. The hospitals, every bed will be filled mostly with children. Martial law, quarantines. Civil unrest shootings. Door to door "knock and talks". Gun confiscations.

All before Christmas. And the main course will not have been served yet. The screaming and blaspheming and cursing God will be yet to come.

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 06:55 PM by Big Oil

reply to post by cali-n-fatuation

So much for Canada day

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 06:56 PM by ziggy1706

Or maybe.this is a builderbur scheme..the talks of them that were reported to wanting the economty to collaspe,, so socialism is introduced. theira lready a few factful threads here on ATS proving this.. look at what obmam did with GM, most likely with meidcare .l.government controlled products tha affect our lives. Of course i am hoping i am wrong..
my guess, is te FED has totaly screwed up everything for us. They want our freedoms under FED control...they want socialism... Theyve sent billions and billions to the banks, others countrys, to sustain thier state of economy and money..WTF about us! the government hs long ago, forggotten its place, the AMERICAN people own it...i dont think they like that at all..thats what government has become.lto displace and spend as much money unecessarily needed and to gain territory wherever possible.
22,000 new jobs made, yeah and sent over to india! how many new job were conjured up? ALL temporary government positions. We are not going to ever see again, another cuircut city, bed batha nd beyond, other retail stores that at least provided quality and jobs...so how jobs for the average american is going to happen..is like pulling a rabbitt outta yuor arse......it isnt gunna happen.
Best we can do, is take whatever jobs come along..security, try n get in the pot office, learn atuo mechnics, get a job at some local gaas station, educate and get certified in accoutning...money and credits have been the future sicne the dawn of time, and wll forever be, as long as humans, and espcially greedy humans run things on this planet...thier will be yuor success and retirement providign the FED hasnt stolen social security form us too soon

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 07:01 PM by Rocketgirl

Originally posted by cali-n-fatuation
Well they have to find some reason/excuse to introduce the Amero and oh, by the way, we are now one country with Canada and Mexico. Welcome to the North American Union.

For a second I forgot all about the Amero. I really can not wait until fall, this need to go ahead and happen now.

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 07:08 PM by Perseus Apex

That is right. There is NO way out of this economic crisis. The world's economies were designed to crash so the NWO folk may provide you the only solution to the problems they created in the first place.

I've spoken alot on this topic due to my background and have included many links that explain it all. If you really want to know what happened and why, the answers are found on the thread below:

You want answers? Look no further.

Now the Federal Reserve (private not Federal) have just declared MORE powers over your future!! Unbelievable? We'll have to see how Congress votes on the issue. The Federal govt. is not run by Americans but rather an international consortium or cabal of International banksters and the Illuminati whom have run this country since the 1780's.

Good Luck.

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 07:17 PM by Angelsoftheapocalypse

If the economy were to crash and all.. the best things that i would think that you could do in a time like that are, get close to a natural clean watersource, and be as far away from any cities as possible. also, look into getting firearms, and other types of weapons.. look into growing your own food, and hunting, and living off the land. also, it doesnt hurt to be a nomad if u can stay away from people for the most part. also, your going to have to learn to defend yourself, because when the economy collapses, mob rules. and if your really smart, you will do two more things, 1 (i know, this sounds rediculous) but move to mexico.. this will get rid of that pesty thing called winter. two, go to a book store, or a military surplus, and pick up a survival guide... trust me, it will come in handy. and finally, i want to say good luck. and god speed

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 07:26 PM by dizziedame

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
reply to post by pluckynoonez

Mac 'n' cheese, 1500 rounds, and viscous watch-pug(yeah right).
Seriously, I'd pick up a few more rounds, if I were you.

That was 150 rounds and a whole case of ramen noodles. Not mac and cheese and 1500 rounds.

That won't last long. Just saying.

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 07:29 PM by posterboy

Well, well, the economy won't tank. In fact, it is going to recover.

The "W' administration had 8 years to go from a budget surplus during the Clinton years to a devastating deficit under "W". The "W" crew did everything in their power (and that was a lot) to make as much money as they possibly could (that was a lot, too.).

It makes me sick to read all this anti-Obama stuff on here. All those critics, please post everything you would have done starting 01/09 to get the US out of the @#$-hole the "W" crew got us in.

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 07:41 PM by picrat

reply to post by getreadyalready

how about buying everything yesterday as today is too late.when the us dollar hits less than the peso which it will when it all collapses because those brainiacs in office all sat on their hands and did NOTHING AT ALL.oh that's right they did they bailed out everyone except those who needed the help the most THE PEOPLE -then they had the audacity to stick THE PEOPLE with this huge tax burden on top of taxing THE PEOPLE even harder. did they not ever learn anything from the past history of our world -such as we THE PEOPLE can only give so much until we can no longer afford their mindlessness-then we the people WILL REVOLT AGAIN & again , you the mindless morons will cry foul -the cry of freedom was OFF WITH THEIR HEADS . and we obliged the man and his minions.
remember the death of J.F.K. this shot was heard around the world and the world stopped dead in it`s tracks .everyone and everything stopped ,never before has anything united the people on all levels as this one incident.we lost one very incredible man that day he could have done wonders to straighten out this mess but it seems someone likes this bowl of crap just the way it is.
what is it going to take for the brainiacs to sit up and listen before we have to take up arms once again to reinstate our rights and freedoms for all as the brainiacs seem to think that they can continue to play god of the darkside with impunity.
one leader down just won`t cut it as we have lost them in other lands and there is always some other brain dead brainiac ready to stand up and take over being a slave master to us THE PEOPLE.when the killing starts it is not going to be in just one country in will be in all lands which means that the brainiacs won`t have a safe haven in the storm as THE PEOPLE will be looking for all of them world wide-that includes the rich [rothchilds,governments heads of banks and the heads of huge corporations,the churches as they have invested your cash into these corporations in wheelbarrows full and so on as it is all of their fault the our world is in such turmoil all in the name of money and greed all at the expense of WE THE PEOPLE.when it hits the fan WE THE PEOPLE end up with nothing and they all have their gold and arrogance.

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 07:49 PM by lookatdat

has anybody seen this? found it while doing some research:

www.scribd.com...

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 07:59 PM by pitchdragon

reply to post by Tentickles

i think you totaly right

www.leap2020.eu...!-Global-systemic-crisis-in-summer-2009-The-cumulative-impact-of-three-rogue-waves_a3359.html

now we should just be smart and don't wait much longer to protect what we should protect

peace

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 08:00 PM by burntheships

reply to post by lookatdat

Very interesting chart...tried to find a way to get the graph out and post it here but can not due to its properties. Worth a look see and quick read!

His opinion...the DJ will crash in 2009. He has a fair chance of being right.

S&F OP!

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 08:01 PM by pitchdragon

reply to post by Tentickles

sorry i had prob with the link

www.leap2020.eu...

it's

GEAB N° 36 is available! Global systemic crisis in summer 2009: The cumulative impact of three « rogue waves »

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 08:10 PM by dizziedame

Screw the stock market. Fortunes have been made without ever spending a dime on the market.

If you can't afford to loose your money then don't buy into stocks.

In my county we have many job openings but people that lost their high paying positions refuse to sling hash or turn burgers. Let them starve.

Oh ye of little faith be not worried that our country is going to fail. It won't happen.

A cleansing and rearrangement needs to and will happen. Small business are opening up as big businesses fail. Mom and Pop stores are back in black.

These are challenging times. The strong and motivated people will survive and do damn well at it.

Spending had gotten totally out of control even down to purchases made by children.

Cell phones, ipods, x boxes, designer clothes and God knows what else have become things young Americans feel they are entitled too.

There will be great and hard lessons learned during the next few years. It's time people realized the important things in life and not in material things.

I welcome a change. I'm ready for change. I've been getting ready for years.

Stop whining and build a worm bed and put a sign by the road and sell fish bait.

There are many things you can do to make money but you got to get off your butt and use your mind.

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 08:11 PM by burntheships

reply to post by pitchdragon

From your link...

At this stage of the global systemic crisis’ process of development, contrary to the dominant political and media stance today, the LEAP/E2020 team does not foresee any economic upsurge after summer 2009 (nor in the following 12 months) (1). On the contrary, because the origins of the crisis remain unaddressed, we estimate that the summer 2009 will be marked by the converging of three very destructive « rogue waves » (2), illustrating the aggravation of the crisis and entailing major upheaval by September/October 2009. As always since this crisis started, each region of the world will be affected neither at the same moment, nor in the same way (3). However, according to our researchers, all of them will be concerned by a significant deterioration in their situation by the end of summer 2009 (4).

This evolution is likely to catch large numbers of economic and financial players on the wrong foot who decided to believe in today’s mainstream media operation of “euphorisation”. .....

.......
LEAP/E2020 believes that, instead of « green shoots » (those which international media, experts and the politicians who listen to them (5) kept perceiving in every statistical chart (6) in the past two months), what will appear on the horizon is a group of three destructive waves of the social and economic fabric expected to converge in the course of summer 2009, illustrating the aggravation of the crisis and entailing major changes by the end of summer 2009… more specifically, debt default events in the US and UK, both countries at the centre of the global system in crisis. These waves appear as follows:

1. Wave of massive unemployment: Three different dates of impact according to the countries in America, Europe, Asia, the Middle East and Africa
2. Wave of serial corporate bankruptcies: companies, banks, housing, states, counties, towns
3. Wave of terminal crisis for the US Dollar, US T-Bond and GBP, and the return of inflation

Leap 2020 has been right on the mark going back to 2007 with thier Global European Anticipation Bulletin...

History and Charts from the last year of Leap 2020 Bulletin

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 08:20 PM by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by venividivici
reply to post by Tentickles

Shoudn't this be in the prophesy forum so we can later laugh at the claim.

The fact is that foreign countries ARE buying US Treasuries and there is no evidence other than Gerald Celente and the Webbot fear mongering to back up a statement that the economy will crash.

Yep...!

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 08:28 PM by zarp3333

Originally posted by venividivici
reply to post by Tentickles

The fact is that foreign countries ARE buying US Treasuries and there is no evidence other than Gerald Celente and the Webbot fear mongering to back up a statement that the economy will crash.

I wish you were right. The Fed is projecting a $3T deficit. The Arabs and Chinese have indicated an interest in $200B each. The Russians are dumping bonds. Who is dumb enough to make up the rest? Its a big game of chicken.

Obama is raping the auto industry to open the door to Chinese imports as a bribe to finance our debt and they aint biting.

This is the calm before the storm. You will know the end is near when gold hits $1,500. That's when the panic selling of T-bills will start. Then its all over.

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 08:31 PM by FritosBBQTwist

reply to post by Tentickles

I never like fear mongering. Useless fear mongering at that.

"The world is going to end - PANIC!!!"

I got some better advice for people. If you do not have a job, find one. If you are in debt, save and pay it off. If you want that new T.V...to damn bad.

There are others who have it far worse than me, and I know some are in a spin out that was beyond their control...but just by witnessing the stupidity of many people, half the reason this crap is happening is because of dumb consumers. The government isn't helping much either, but it is pretty sick hearing everyone depending on the upper powers for support.

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 08:31 PM by murfdog

Interesting post, I’ve bin investing for years now (real estate, commodities, etc.) and had the fortitude to prepared for the housing market crash , and am profiting rather well form that insight.
With that being said, I say watch the commercial credit market (i.e. loans on commercial real estate etc.) that is the next crash in the market. Annalists are aware of this but few have come out and said it. Instead the say things like “we may see a double dip recession.” This is code for the market is going to go south again. The trouble is no one knows how far.
Looking at the current unemployment rate and sudden increases in the commodities market ( oil, foods and metals) this will continue to strain are economy . In its current state any adverse impact to any one sector of are economy I’m afraid could bring the whole thing to its knees again.
Also remember the rise in the market is wholly do to the trillion dollars the fed has shot in to it. Think of it like this. The market is on a sugar high right now, the sugar being the stimulus dollars and we all know what happens after the sugar wares off. We all crash.
Pray for the best nut prepare for the worst.
MURFDOG

reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 08:34 PM by Walkswithfish

It would be easy to fall for the doom and gloom predictions of the future here... And I have no illusions that things are going to miraculously get better... But sometimes from destruction can come a better future.

One factor many fail to consider is the American people. When all is said and done, despite the government and a corrupt system of elite, this nation was built by Americans... We can and will rise above all of this eventually with a lasting education, new motivation, and stronger desire to be involved in the elections. This will be the wake up call that ALL Americans needed.

It will hurt for a while, things will get worse before they get better, but it will get better. The change that is coming will be the changes that we the people make happen!

From our fall from greatness as a nation will come a new lasting level of awareness... They will never be able to do this to us again.

If you think we can't do it, then you underestimate yourselves.