Have Bush/Cheney ever done anything that is actually illegal? Nope!

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I don't know, I wish they would prosecute. I think Obama wants to steer clear of that, because Cheney would use the media coverage to press his agenda. I don't think Obama wants that, especially not right now.

So, he turns a blind eye, and we move on like nothing happened. I fear that those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it, though. Which makes prosecuting war crimes worth the effort, in order to stop crimes from recurring in the future. en.wikipedia.org...

Although, prosecution could also backfire. Cheney could win, and waterboards could become so common you'll see one set up at your local police station. Chilling thought. (I know I know, we only torture the terrorists. But apparently you haven't looked into what the state is calling "terrorists" these days.)


My question to you, is why didn't Cheney release these memos when he was in office??? This torture scandal isn't new -- they had all the resources of the highest office in the country to make their case for waterboarding, and failed. Now that they're out of office, suddenly there's a bunch of proof that vindicates Cheney, and it's up to Obama to find this proof and release it to the public. Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

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Oh dear ...

You really think we're trying to convince you?

If such are your beliefs there's no evidence in the world that would achieve that.
Hell if Bush himself whispered it to you you'd call him a liar.

Please, enjoy your lovefest, some of us actually deal in the present.

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LOL, well maybe you guys will get lucky too and get Bush/Cheney on tax evasion. Got any proof of that?

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Oh so you have moved on. You accuse them of being equal to Satan and Hitler but you decided to move on to the present. Maybe you can find some dirt on Obama/Biden.

Bush and Cheney will buy it and eat it for breakfast. I am pretty sure that they eat peoples internal organs. I heard it on the Alex Jones show.

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Yes, in a thread about Bush/Cheney.. Makes sense.

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Yes I am in love with bush and cheney. I think about their old wrinkly sacks every night.

You probably saw, but ignored the post where I said if their was any credible proof of guilt then they should be punished.

I thought you was done? You did say good bye.

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Did Bush/Cheney invent depleted uranium shells? They have been in use since at least the first Gulf War.

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First of all I was just playing with both you and jd as you both seem to have a rather limited grasp on the facts and reality.

Not so much because your point isn't valid but simply because of the transparent and dogmatic way with which you present it.

The fact that you are so hastily willing to assume that I am an Obama supporter only further solidifies your position as one caught in the archaic right/left paradigm.

As such there is very little of value here other than a fleeting moment of amusement.

Just saying ...

nothing that they have done is illegal so long as you subscribe to the notion that "if the president does it, that means it's not illegal"

i don't, neither should you

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LOL, I never said you were an Obama supporter. I said go get some dirt on him since you have moved on past Bush/Cheney.

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Just because the Justice Dept. says something, doesnt make legal/illegal. They simply review existing laws and interpret it in their favor, lawyers do it all the time.

Yea, rather like Coke Vs Pepsi, or sports team A vs sports team B.

People are easily put into a mob mentality. Even on ats

Well who is the President supposed to trust for legal advice if he cannot go to the Justice Dept? Maybe he should have asked Bin Ladens attorneys.

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Do you actually have anything to contribute to this thread?

So far all you have been is a smart ass.

Well I do not subscribe to the notion that niothing a President does is illegal. But I havent seen one thing where he broke the law during his Presidency not one. I am willing to listen though if you have anything at all.

I am just not one to start making up crimes because I disagree with someones policies.

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Other than the painfully obvious truth, no.



Don't let it upset you sport, that's what I do every time neoconpoopery raises it's head.

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Well could you reiterate that truth again, because I havent seen one thing anyone has pointed out that is illegal, unless you are just sticking to some petty crimes Bush did while in college.

Congress can, and has in the past, passed laws that were unconstitutional. Once they are challenged and work their way to the Supreme Court they are over turned. With the Patriot Act there hasnt been a challenge because it is difficult for an American citizen to demonstrate that their rights were violated. Mainly because evidence is hard to obtain due to "national security" restrictions on FOIA requests. There is little doubt in the legal community that if a case were to make it to the Supreme Court, the Patriot act would be declared unconstitutional. Having said all that Bush and Cheney are not responsibility for the Patriot Act, Congress is.