reply to post by Seth Bullock
Water boarding may be torture, or it may be enhanced interrogation.
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In 1983, federal prosecutors charged a Texas sheriff and three of his deputies with violating prisoners' civil rights by forcing confessions. The
complaint alleged that the officers conspired to "subject prisoners to a suffocating water torture ordeal in order to coerce confessions. This
generally included the placement of a towel over the nose and mouth of the prisoner and the pouring of water in the towel until the prisoner began to
move, jerk, or otherwise indicate that he was suffocating and/or drowning." The four defendants were convicted, and the sheriff was sentenced to 10
years in prison.
As far back as the U.S. occupation of the Philippines after the 1898 Spanish-American War, U.S. soldiers were court-martialed for using the "water
cure" to question Filipino guerrillas.
Let's see, from 1898 until present, this has been punished as a crime, yet you still feel the jury is out? Weird!
Oh please. That is a serious oversimplification of a law passed with the Patriot Act and a later law passed with the Protect America Act (with a yes
vote from Barak Obama I might add). Both of which are perfectly constitutional. Provide me with the name and case number of an American citizen whose
rights were abused under this law by Bush or Cheney personally and then we will talk.
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For a time, the USA PATRIOT Act allowed for agents to undertake "sneak and peek" searches.[51] Critics such as EPIC and the ACLU strongly criticized
the law for violating the Fourth Amendment,[206] with the ACLU going so far as to release an advertisement condemning it and calling for it to be
repealed.[207]
In 2004, FBI agents used this provision to search and secretly examine the home of Brandon Mayfield, who was wrongfully jailed for two weeks on
suspicion of involvement in the Madrid train bombings. While the U.S. Government did publicly apologize to Mayfield and his family,[210] Mayfield took
it further through the courts. On September 26, 2007, judge Ann Aiken found the law was, in fact, unconstitutional as the search was an unreasonable
imposition on Mayfield and thus violated the Fourth Amendment.
His name is Brandon Mayfield. His constitutional rights, specifically the fourth amendment, were violated by the USA PATRIOT Act. He was cleared of
any wrongdoing and received an apology and $2 million from the US government for their CRIMES committed against him. He is not the only one, there are
others.
Again here, it is you that do not understand the facts. As far as congressional approval, you may want to research Public Law 107-243, The Iraq
Resolution. You may also want to look at the terms of the 1991 cease fire agreement that halted the first gulf war, and the Iraqi governments'
serious noncompliance.
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The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to
"defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security
Council Resolutions regarding Iraq."
International law Further information: United Nations Charter and International law Debate about the legality of the 2003 invasion of Iraq under
international law centers around ambiguous language in parts of UN Resolution 1441 (2002).[45] The UN Charter prohibits any war unless it is out of
self-defense or when it is sanctioned by the UN security council. If these requirements are not met international law describes it a war of
aggression.
John Conyers, Robert Parry and Marjorie Cohn assert that the Iraq war was a violation of the U.N. Charter and as such a war of aggression (a crime
against peace) and therefore a war crime.[52] Kofi Annan too has said the war in Iraq is an "illegal act that contravened the UN charter."[53] Some
scholars, including Columbia law professor Michael Dorf, have argued that treaties are binding on the U.S. under international law.
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War of aggression From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search A war of aggression is a military conflict waged absent the
justification of self-defense. Waging such a war of aggression is a crime under the customary international law. It is generally agreed by scholars in
international law that the military actions of the Nazi regime in World War II in its search for so-called "Lebensraum" are characteristic of a war
of aggression.
Use the links here to get a better understanding of this. Basically, everyone else around the world agrees, including most American citizens, the
minimal authorization granted them was clearly violated and determined a war of aggression. This was realized by all of them, which sent them
scurrying to amend the original docs. and cover their azz. This was easily noticed around the world by everyone other than people like you, Seth?
Face the facts. No one was out there intentionally lying to congress, particularly an upstanding patriot like Colin Powell. Much of what we suspected
about Iraqi WMD turned out not to be the case...As far as manufacturing evidence, again show me evidence manufactured personally by or at the behest
of Bush or Cheney and we will talk about breaking the law.
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A study coauthored by nonprofit, liberal journalism organization the Center for Public Integrity found that in the two years after September 11, 2001
the president and top administration officials had made 935 false statements, in an orchestrated public relations campaign to galvanize public opinion
for the war, and that the press was largely complicit in its uncritical coverage of the reasons adduced for going to war."
How about 935 of them? Maybe you should face the facts, don't you think? I think I'll stop now. The rest of what I said is also true, but I think
you have had enough? Now why don't you pull your pants up and run along home? You are too easy!