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Soooo...what you're saying then is that obstruction of justice (in numerous 9/11 investigations, in flying the Bin Ladens out of the country, who very possibly had much needed info on the whereabouts of Osama, while millions of Americans where stuck on the ground),
the torturing of prisoners (which is a violation of nearly every single international law passed since WWII),
invading a country under false pretenses (while not illegal, certainly doesn't reflect the ideals and principles that 99.9999% of Americans hold dear),
the highly illegal act of exposing the identity of an undercover CIA agent (all because of something her husband said in a country where people are supposed to have freedom of speech and press - the impeding of which is yet another illegal act),
and the obvious fraud that was the 2000 presidential election - is, in fact, legal?
Originally posted by max.is.awake
are you serious??? even if you do not believe the bush admin was responsible for 9\11 you have to acknowledge that it DID HAPPEN on their watch.... therefore they are responsible EITHER WAY and should be hung on the white house lawn for all the world to see...i mean honestly until then we were told the pentagon was the most secure building in the world....and it gets attacked...over an hour AFTER 2 attacks in new york....anyone who thinks bush dick rice rumsfeld and the man on watch at NORAD are innocent is just as unamerican as they are....and should be hung on the white house lawn for all the world to see...seriously....stop hitting snooze and WAKE UP
Ok these questions are answered on the previous page.
They were not considered torture by either the Justice Dept at the time or the bipartisan members of Congress that were breifed beforehand.
You answered this one yourself, plus there are other reasons posted for how this happened in this thread.
Last time I checked it was not Bush or Cheney that were convicted of this.
Proof of what you stated below or just liberal whining about loosing?
You're right. It was considered torture long after that. It's amazing the laws you can get through Congress when you use fear as a weapon. Furthermore, just because there were some who at the time didn't consider it torture, doesn't mean it wasn't torture. I guess that's why the Republicans are still in control of Congress.
Nixon was never convicted of anything during Watergate, either. But guess what? It still happened. And everybody knows he was guilty...just like Bush and Cheney.
First of all, it's losing*. Secondly, are you referring to proof other than the fact that Gore won or how some Florida Democratic voters were illegally prevented from voting or how Florida's outdated voting system, led by a thoroughly incompetent governor and secretary of state intentionally prevented thousands of votes from being properly counted?
Originally posted by max.is.awake
funny thing is IMHO W had nothing to do with it....he may have his good points but i do not see him being the mastermind behind one of the greatest conspiracies of all time...his attitude and reactions during press interviews...his father was the first president to run for 3 terms from where i stand\sit and Cheney is just outright scary...i live in SD...i was here when he "accidentally" shot someone in the kisser......and the just so you guys know...the peasants they were shooting had clipped wings...someone threw them in the air for them ......no joke
Originally posted by MacDonagh
Obvious troll is obvious.