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posted on May, 3 2004 @ 10:10 PM
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Since the general assumption here is that it is acceptable to view porn as an adult but it is considered faulty as a guardian to allow a child to watch it, what is the age where one advances to the realm of porn viewability?




posted on May, 3 2004 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by Cenarius
Since the general assumption here is that it is acceptable to view porn as an adult but it is considered faulty as a guardian to allow a child to watch it, what is the age where one advances to the realm of porn viewability?


That is a good question. In Canada the age is 18, to purchase. I would say that depending on the maturity of the child 15 would be acceptable.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:05 PM
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Keep in mind it is a multi-billion dollar industry.

Do you think the money is the cause or the effect?



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by ashley
Keep in mind it is a multi-billion dollar industry.

Do you think the money is the cause or the effect?


There would not be a supply if there was not a demand.

Who cares what people do on their own private time? If someone dosn't like porn, than they should not look at it.

Aside from it being inappropriate for young children, I don't see any problems.

[Edited on 3-5-2004 by Facefirst]



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by ashley
Keep in mind it is a multi-billion dollar industry.

Do you think the money is the cause or the effect?


Well, that made me stop and think, another good question. I think that is the effect. If sex didn't sell, it wouldn't be as prevellent. Jesus the use sex to sell everything today. Did you see the commercial about the gum that makes those chewing go ape #. The girl jumps on her boyfriend right in front of the parents. Then the mother chews and BANG, off to the races. Bottom line is it sells.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:14 PM
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Last time I went to the movies one of the commercials they were playing before the movie was for a type of clothing (forget the name) and they show a guy and a girl in a bathtub, and you'd think he's jerking her off (for lack of better wording :@@
but they're shown to just be washing clothes in the end.

Sex sells, and it's an everyday marketing ploy.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:15 PM
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lets all be honest here , how many of us viewed films [tv /video ] we weren't meant too when we were adolescents .
as a catholic [christian brothers educated ] boy , i learn't much more from the media about sexuality then i did from adults .
porn is as old as the picture , camera or camcorder .
porn led the development of internet technology .
the secound photo ever taken[ if you believe the reference in vonegut 's slaughter house five ] was pornagraphic [if you don't visit the erotica museum in amsterdam ... this stuff ain't new ]
examine the porn on the net , i have some serious problems with some of it .
however censorship won't stop it .
the moralist brigade would be better put to worrying about pedophilia , sex tourism ,domestic violence e.t.c. as real issues not the symptom of the malaise displayed in some of the more reprehensible images and sites on the net .

i was told by an academic internet observer of these patterns that the term" lollita" is one of the most popular searches/key words on the net
stick in any sexual term to google and count the results !
i tried carrot porn one night after a discussion with my wife , we were astounded to find 20 or so links .... carrots ... whats up with that ?



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by dahei
i tried carrot porn one night after a discussion with my wife , we were astounded to find 20 or so links .... carrots ... whats up with that ?


Who cares? Whatever works for you is my philosophy. If you are into vegetables or whatever....... so be it.

As long as no one gets hurt and fun is had by all, what's the problem?



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:21 PM
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If anything, porn has kept a lot of people from actually going out and having sex. Many people become so attached to it, that to them, it is better than the real thing.

Why take the time and energy to satisfy someone else when you can go pop in a video, look at pictures, or read stories, and pleasure only yourself? Its all about quick and easy self-indulgence.

Porn has also helped many couples keep their sexual life appetizing. It has also kept many married couples from committing adultery, just by keeping the fire going.

America still has many taboos with the nude human body, but thats mostly because of the Christian right and their beliefs that the human body is disqusting and sinful and bla, bla, bla, bla...

Europe is older and more mature (with certain things), hence, things like the nude human figure don't really bother them. Children grow up with it, it isn't a big deal. When people grow up with the nude human figure, there isn't as much of a curiosity to take a "peek" at someone else's nude figure anymore (of course, that still depends on the person, but generally speaking, people become more neutral about it). In America though, since most people don't grow up around nudity, a child's curiosity, as well as an adult's, is greatly increased - hence, we have a lot of perverts (they are everywhere of course).

Illmatic, your comment about America being greedy and only concerned about the almighty dollar is partly unfounded. Every country in the world is greedy for riches. 99.99% of the humans in this world are greedy, self-indulgent beings. Don't single out America. Very few people in this world have the capacity to be non-greedy and non-self-indulgent.

Well, thats my 2-cents.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:21 PM
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Carrot porn, huh?
Interesting. Not too much difference between a carrot and a proper sex toy. Though the carrot would be cheaper.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:24 PM
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I guess we have an answer for the question "what's up, Doc?"



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by EmbryonicEssence
Europe is older and more mature (with certain things), hence, things like the nude human figure don't really bother them. Children grow up with it, it isn't a big deal. When people grow up with the nude human figure, there isn't as much of a curiosity to take a "peek" at someone else's nude figure anymore (of course, that still depends on the person, but generally speaking, people become more neutral about it). In America though, since most people don't grow up around nudity, a child's curiosity, as well as an adult's, is greatly increased - hence, we have a lot of perverts (they are everywhere of course).


That line of thought could also be applied to Alcohol and drug abuse as well.

Showing Udai and Qusay Hussein's dead, bloated bodies on TV was acceptable, but Janet's right boob sets off an outrage?!!?!? I would rather have my kid see a boob over a dead murdered body anyday of the week.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:34 PM
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FF, good point, but it appears that the gov. has it the other way around. Did you notice the warnings at the beginning of shows with mature content that they say "the following program contains nudity, violence....", I don't know if it's because of alphabetical order or whatever, it seems that they are more concerned that the kids might see a naked body than violence.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
FF, good point, but it appears that the gov. has it the other way around. Did you notice the warnings at the beginning of shows with mature content that they say "the following program contains nudity, violence....", I don't know if it's because of alphabetical order or whatever, it seems that they are more concerned that the kids might see a naked body than violence.


You are so right! We had a controversy where I live when the local affiliate showed Shindler's List. People were writing in, not about the graphic violence in the movie itself, but the fact that there was, god forbid, nudity and cursing. I just don't get it. It's okay for someones child to see death and destruction, but not the human body.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:50 PM
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It really doesn't make sense for one to be ok, and the other be a taboo subject. Especially when we all have the the physical form that is apparently questionable to some.

The whole Janet Jackson thing was just ridiculous. We all have nipples; what is the big deal?



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by Facefirst

Originally posted by dahei
i tried carrot porn one night after a discussion with my wife , we were astounded to find 20 or so links .... carrots ... whats up with that ?


Who cares? Whatever works for you is my philosophy. If you are into vegetables or whatever....... so be it.

As long as no one gets hurt and fun is had by all, what's the problem?



thats a mucky shot there ,
i was going to post and explain why we were searching that term in response ..
however ,it was funny so why bother [the explanation whilst being funnier also fringes on some un kosher internet activity directed at a site disrespecting the victims of 9/11 ]
all those that are intrigued feel free to usu



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Bleys
You are so right! We had a controversy where I live when the local affiliate showed Shindler's List. People were writing in, not about the graphic violence in the movie itself, but the fact that there was, god forbid, nudity and cursing. I just don't get it. It's okay for someones child to see death and destruction, but not the human body.


I had a similar experience a few weeks ago. The History Channel was showing "Band of Brothers" and they were bleeping out swears! But at the same time, they were not censoring legs and arms being blown off or people getting shot and people dying gruesome deaths. The hypocrisy of it all is getting a little ridiculous here in the US.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by parrhesia
It really doesn't make sense for one to be ok, and the other be a taboo subject. Especially when we all have the the physical form that is apparently questionable to some.

The whole Janet Jackson thing was just ridiculous. We all have nipples; what is the big deal?


For me it wasn't the "nudity" factor. When they flashed that ugly sack of flesh it pissed me off that someone would demean the Superbowl with such an obvious publicity stunt. It worked though, we're still talking about it.



posted on May, 3 2004 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

For me it wasn't the "nudity" factor. When they flashed that ugly sack of flesh it pissed me off that someone would demean the Superbowl with such an obvious publicity stunt. It worked though, we're still talking about it.


It certainly did work, but it's also seemed to have quite a few negative consequences.

I guess it being demeaning to the superbowl is a football thing (not a football fan), but I can see what you mean.



posted on May, 4 2004 @ 12:00 AM
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I was at that SuperBowl game. There was so much stuff going on that most people did not notice. I did not even hear about the boob incident until the next day in my houston hotel room.



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