i dont live there. he mentioned that he sent the video but i still have not recieved.

If you guys want to challenge me at every claim and turn then i wont share. If you want to listen to how things develop, believe them or not, i will continue to post what i hear.

Is there any channel to reach Bigelow through other than his aerospace corp? I would love to haggle myself in to a visitation arrangement with him and the ranch.

One thing I've learned in my time on this planet is that no matter how much money one man may possess, they will never turn down more. Unless, of course, he is in fact tied to the less savory elements of the government as it has been surmised. In all actuality he doesn't even have, from an economical standpoint, reason to keep the ranch in his pocket. NIDS was proven to be impotent in it's capacity, therefore any property he has retained for investigative pursuits are at this point only hemorrhaging money. The grounds have to be maintained and so forth. Is there any public record showing that the land has changed hands? If not, I see no reason why he wouldn't be open to quietly allowing a discreet holiday on his ranch. We can all guess what he's up to and what his true motivations are, but until someone asks, we'll never really know. I'm off to find an e-mail address.

from personal experience NIDS has been replaced with a much more militant team currently surveying the ranch. It is hardly a "maintenance " problem for him..

Uuuuuh, does anybody here besides me find this nonsense? I do believe in alien life in our universe, but this. I can understand wanting to keep the interest in the paranormal going, but this is piss poor work, and how the neuron in someone's brain would even fire to make them believe in this is a greater question. The chum has now been thrown into the water, sadly I must say.

this truely is a thankless endeavor at times like this. These expeditions have cost me thousands of dollars and countless weeks away from my family. I have nothing to gain by sharing my first hand honest experiences here. I feel this is information we as researchers should all have a privlige to, not just those who own a aerospace company, or in a position of high level goverment intel.

I remember reading somewhere that area 51 workers received their paycheck via Naval Intelligence, i don't think it is too much of a stretch to suppose the ranch might be similarly funded. I don't think NIDS is functioning any more, at least their website wasn't.

I apologize if I offended anyone, that was not my intention. I love people who do this kind of research, but hate the people who make outrageous claims of giant wolves and portals from planet snoopy poop opening and shapeshifting reptilian aliens coming out of them. It is a disservice to those who and I am one of them take this topic seriously and hate when there are people like Bob Lazar or John Lear polluting it. Please accept my apology if I offended anyone.

Thanks Hii98 for this and your other threads on Skinwalker ranch, they are some of the best on this website and i am really fascinated by your ongoing research. I hope that you can continue with your field work and keeping us informed as you go it would be great to find out just exactly what is going on here but i imagine that is not going to be easy.
Also thanks to those others who have given up their time to investigate this aswell.

i plan to head out again before it gets too cold out. I have a few new investigative tools i purchased and methods for capturing the elusive phenomona. I'm familiar with tin foil hats lol, but seriously anyone familiar with lead lined bags the kind that is used to protect film from xray machines at airports? We've had some very important film mysteriously erased immediatly after filming the ranch. I dont want this to happen again on site, either by human error or....something else.

new equiptment includes more powerful video camera with 60x optical zoom, digitial night vision with video out for recording, helmet camera, and digitial recorder with clip on windresistant mic. Also a powerful spotting scope. Really the only tools you need. This is a big upgrade from my previous expeditions, but a necessary one. Extra powerful green laser Also some nondescript nonlethal protection.

just got another photo of the scientist looking man who was holding the unusual device (remember i was NOT there and am getting this all second hand).

Here is a tiny thumbnail photo which really doesnt show much. He's apparently holding this device while walking around the property and it is giving off an arc like light.




also he mentioned that the white van that was in front of his house has 7 stars on it. A researcher concluded that the van was a NSA van. Can anyone support or refute this claim? He said the fact that there are 7 stars rather than 5 in exclusive to the NSA.

I personally think that conclusion may be persumptious and most likely local tribal police or county emblem.



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David Adair saw a quote living alien engine unquote. Bob Lazar, in plain words is a fraud. Lets examine the evidence. S4 just so happens to be a real place, only it is located over at the Tonopah Test Range and is a radar field. The Dulce story which came out before Bob Lazar's story did concern a man who was a security guard named Thomas Costello. Bob comes out and says he worked with a man at S4 named Barry Costello. Bob's very real friend Jim Taliani who worked at the TTR(hmm I wonder where S4 came from) just happens to become Dennis Mariani, Bob's supervisor and boss at S4. Uuuuh see a pattern emerging here? Oh, and how the information that the alien craft came from the Zeti Reticuli star system was extracted from the craft I don't know maybe it came from the Betty and Barney Hill's story or something along those lines, if I remember Bob's words correctly. All of these SO called abductees and witnesse's say the aliens came from Zeti Reticuli, Betty and Barney Hill did a great job lighting a forest fire of wannabe's, but people are smarter than that.

I read your post twice, i think the major portion of your argument took place in your mind. S4 was called "dreamland" and was supposedly a storage area for crashed or otherwise captured e.t. craft. You begin to ramble about who worked for who and where and lost me. I don't recall any previous mention of Zeta Reticuli or Betty and Barney Hill. Could you perhaps elucidate your point more cohesively? BLM issues the Area numbers, i.e. Area 51, Area 52, et cetera. Department of Naval Intelligent has their own site significators which are further broken down. A Area 51 S4 Level 5 section 4 bay 1 subsection a or some such string of locators. Warehouses keep records or inventories of what is stored in that particular location, how many are there how many should be there and how many have been ordered

This is what pisses me off. I am guilty of leading a person or person's into a trap, strictly because they don't do their research. Listen to the numerous interviews Bob Lazar, John Lear and the hypnotic regression's of Betty and Barney Hill. They contradict themselve's at every point I've made, hoping you just take their word for it because you quote want to believe unquote. It's great to want to believe, I am one of them, but I need proof before I can believe. I do my research and just don't accept people's hear say as truth. I only say this because I have a relative who was a high ranking military officer in the US military. Some may look on that and think of that person as some kind of God, uuuuh no thats just what happened period. I was going to pursue the facts regardless of what he told me, and what he told me was, " there are no facts to pursue". " "We would love to have one of those things crash, and GODDARN IT we know their up there, but who do you think your dealing with son?" I don't know any hidden knowledge or secret files, but as God as my witness I know this man who is related to me did. He never spilled any beans or secret briefing files to me, all he said was " who do you think your dealing with son. " No claim of hidden or secret truths here, just the cold hard facts.