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Topic started on 17-6-2009 @ 03:26 PM by i_want_the_truth
Most of my info comes from J.P. Skipper, and all of his information can be verified at his site here.Remember that all visual evidence at this site is drawn from, verifiable in, and supported by the official science data. Links to the associated official science data is always provided to both encourage and facilitate verification. Absolutely no evidence alterations have been made except to enhance clarity. There is no need for a leap of faith. If ever in doubt, pursue the verification process and prove it to yourself.
There are a couple of other threads out there that have similar subjects but I do not think they cover the things I am about to get into.
Like I said...life on mars...you guys tell me.
NASA and image tampering...you tell me.
Mars moving evidence Report 163
May 24, 2009


In the above image with a 200% zoom factor, view of the "cricket" on the left and the tiny white spot in the right frame. Next to the upper left of the white spot is a few .jpeg compression artifacts. It appears to me that something likely has been removed from this spot and the empty pixels are a carelessly left behind manifestation of this intrusion.
You see the rover imaging, although the camera work was promoted before launch as some of the best resolution ever utilized, as released to us it is in the .jpeg format and severely compressed. That kind of severe compression results in smaller display image file size but also very poor image resolution quality. In other words, what ever was gained by sharp high definition camera work resolution in taking the pictures is lost and severely compromised in the public image release presentation. This obviously prevents effective zoom and closer examination of evidence like this. Now it's hard not to contemplate how convenient that is should secrecy be someone's goal.


Is that something....Bleeding or oozing?
Report #157 February 2, 2009 (updated 2/13/09)source

It demonstrates some kind of vegetation or lichen growth especially prominent on one of the rocks so that just enough detail of it can be seen and recognized. --This original dark blue false color of the evidence brings up a point. As most of you know the real true color of living objects frequently gives them away as far as the human eye being able to identify such evidence is concerned. For example, much of vegetative life is a green color for reasons most of you are familiar with. On the other hand, lichen life for example works on a little different symbiotic principle often demonstrating fairly strong yellows, browns, grays, and even reds. The official position would have us believe that the rover imaging is only in black and white and not in color and that they know what kind of false color to add to an image. If you really completely believe that, I have a large bridge that I would like to sell you at a bargain price.



The rest of these images come from various reports...source



Not so red after all....



reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 03:29 PM by i_want_the_truth
Here are the rest of the sources...
Nasa
Nasa
So what do you guys think about all this? I do understand that none of this is 100% proof that life exists on Mars....But...

There is some pretty eerie stuff out there. I do not believe we are being told the truth about everything...Heck, probably nothing for that matter. But that is my opinion of course.

So what is some of this stuff people???

P.s. I'm trying to show links for all my sources but it will only let me do 2 for some reason. I'll post more very soon.


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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 04:32 PM by ArMaP
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On the first photo, I think that its something on the lens, not on the ground, and the fact that it's not there on the second photo (that Skipper "forgot" to say was taken at the same time as the first one, but from the right camera instead of the left one) makes me think that was the case.

The white dot is a "hot pixel", and as anyone that is really interested in image analysis will tell you, JPEG works in 16x16 pixel blocks, so something like a white pixel on a dark background will create JPEG artifacts on that block, but only on that block.

You can see that "hot pixel" on the other photos from the right camera, and it's exactly on the same place, with similar artifacts surrounding it.

The Viking photo is much more interesting (and the reason why I never dismiss threads about things seen on Mars or the Moon, most things may be common things, but some may be interesting, even if not proof of anything special), and I will say something about after my diner.

I will be back in two hours.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 04:44 PM by esteay812
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Looks kind of like the "white blood" that comes out of some plants when they are pulled apart. I have never seen that before, nice pic.

I know it would be easy to believe that the grreatest day would be when we find, or are given, a picture with an alien waving. The only problem with tht is the fact that aliens in that enviroment may not be capable of waving.

They may be completely different from anything we've ever seen or imagined, so the only way yot find one is to search, and search some more.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 04:45 PM by esteay812
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I agree, I thought the same at first glance. I have been wrong a lot, like most everyone has, especially when judging distance.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 04:52 PM by i_want_the_truth
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So, just to be clear, you are saying one of the cameras has something on it; and the other camera has a bad pixel in it. Would this be a correct assumption from your post?

Can you also post an image with arrows on the "hot pixel" that you are referring to so we may have some evidence to examine.

Thank you


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:24 PM by smurfy
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Hi,
The required arrows are already there,it's just that the photo investigator has given a different slant to Armap's why the white pixel is there.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:32 PM by i_want_the_truth
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ArMaP stated that the" hot pixel " should be visible on other images to collaborate his theory. I am referring to posting other images with the same camera that should generate the same "hot pixel" in the same block of jpeg as Armap stated. This would confirm his statement.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:43 PM by i_want_the_truth
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Mr Mota, I agree with you totally. More information needs to come forward as to how this little trench got there and also, more specks on, if any, what kind of digging device was equipped.

I will also try to provide more details as to the scale of the image.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:47 PM by smurfy
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Hi,Armap does say "the other photos" but there are only the original and the blowup, on this thread.That,I think is what he may be referring to although there are bound to be more short time pictures available at NASA and of which Armap may already have,why not have a look yourself.



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