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posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:31 PM
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The same way I'd describe the one that came down the road towards me one night- it was the size of a grapefruit, did a 90 degree turn (I thought it was a bicycle light!) and flew into the woods and disappeared. I did 1 second later- running full speed down the road!

Now- lemme show you what's similar to both of these descriptions:

We both described what we saw in concise terms. We both used everyday terms to tell what we saw. We didn't say " In my inner chi energies, I was told by my spirit guide Molkulunooke Nyuck Nyuck that it was actually the Emissary from Uranus"


We didn't claim anything that wasn't already seen and experienced. I can add a little to mine- in fact, I did do an artist's impression of what I saw. Hey, it was a glowing yellow orb. Cant get more basic than that.

As for the 'alien' claims? All I have in that dept is other people telling me about this 'quality' I have that seems to make them think I am a little green man from somewhere in disguise. Drives me nuts- and keeps me single for the most part. Worse part is... I don't do anything 'weird' to get stuck with the tag! Tho in today's mind addled, Reality tv show society- if you can screw in a lightbulb without botching the job, you're a freaking genius. Imagine what someone with talents beyond that can be viewed as! Heck, I know people who think I have super powers because I can bring their disabused PC back from the dead. Too bad that a month after I tell them WHY their computer blew up in the first place (bad websites, viruses from sketchy d/ls, and on and on and on)- they come right back whining the thing 'died under weird circumstances again (same exact mess as before just the viruses changed dancing partners)'- And they have need of my 'superior intellect'.


Does this make me an alien? Crud, I hope NOT. If I represent a superior alien race, the galaxy is screwed but GOOD!




posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:34 PM
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Grapes, I don't know how old you are, but today's video games are classic examples of the type of non survival type skills we have acquired and perfected when it comes to co-creating worlds.

Example: Oblivion's OOO mod. A classic mod developed by team member Sotobrastos LINK to OOO website. Hundreds of VOLUNTEER hours (he's unpaid by Bethesda Softworks), and yet what he's done with the game is nothing less than simply amazing.

And as you put it, the next leap of logic to take is that we must ask ourselves "what is reality"? Because if we puny humans (one species out of 26,000,000) can work in unison to create virtual worlds within computers...and if the very reality we exist in is also a virtual simulation itself that is based on light as well...then it stands to reason that as we evolve from this point forward we will eventually be able to go "out there" in other systems and galaxies where Light itself also exists and co-create - with God - other worlds and planets and realms for others to grow and develop in as well.

God is the architect, we're the construction crew.

Alright. I've spent too much time in here. Gotta go. Ciao. Enjoy reality - whatever you think it is.

[edit on 17-6-2009 by nethawk]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:36 PM
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Answer this?

Not proclaiming myself an alien, but I don't know or remember where I came from and I don't know where I am going.

I mean before birth and after death, so what does that make me while I am here?



[edit on 17-6-2009 by Realtruth]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:38 PM
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Creating a galaxy in a video game is not the same as creating a real world galaxy. Maybe you should put away the games and go get a book about physics.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:39 PM
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I for one am not stating you are a fraud (yet), but please be kind enough to explain how these vibrations work, in your own words, without linking to other peoples work.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:42 PM
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Good luck getting an answer. There is not even proof that living things operate on certain vibrational levels. It is just some made up gobildygook that is passed on by people that failed science in school.

[edit on 17-6-2009 by grapesofraft]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:43 PM
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What's reality, Grapes? Remember Morpheus and his words to Neo: Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?

We are gods. We are stranded and amnesic aliens. It's why we are so fundamentally different from every other lifeform we share the planet with. it doesn't make us better. It simply makes us special - and accountable. Get used to it.

And to the OP - sorry, but I proudly represent whom you dislike to be exposed to and interact with.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by nethawk
What's reality, Grapes? Remember Morpheus and his words to Neo: Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?

We are gods. We are stranded and amnesic aliens. It's why we are so fundamentally different from every other lifeform we share the planet with. it doesn't make us better. It simply makes us special - and accountable. Get used to it.

And to the OP - sorry, but I proudly represent whom you dislike to be exposed to and interact with.


LOL, we do not live in the Matrix. That was just a good story. I guess SuperMan and SpiderMan are super Gods then.

If we are Gods from another world then why do we share over 90% of our DNA with Chimps? Are Chimps aliens too?

Some people need to realize that fiction means story and non-fiction usually means based on reality. I know it is confusing, because I get tripped up at the library too sometimes.

[edit on 17-6-2009 by grapesofraft]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:53 PM
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"LOL, we do not live in the Matrix. That was just a good story."

We do live in a matrix, and it was an excellent (if somewhat rehashed) story.

"If we are Gods from another world then why do we share over 90% of our DNA with Chimps? Are Chimps aliens too?"

Actually, it's between 95 and 98 percent. The real kicker of course becomes: "How on Earth does a minute percentage such as that seem so huge in effect when in fact it should mean that we merely become another type of ape?".

"Some people need to realize that fiction means story and non-fiction usually means based on reality. I know it is confusing, because I get tripped up at the library too sometimes."

I'm not into fiction or non fiction. I like friction.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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What net hawk is trying to say is no matter what you come up with you can be deceived in your current state of being.

All of your senses can be deceived, hence nothing is provable.

All the theories and thoughts in this reality prove only other things in this reality. Basically circular argumentation. Dog chasing it's tail or "but what about this?"

Just enjoy things for what they are? What that is......don't know. lol



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by PINDARFOX12
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Not to be rude to you in any way but let me ask you this... Can you disprove anyones claims that they might be alien? from the many years of research i have done on this i have foun dit to be true that they could be your next door neighbor and you wouldnt even know it. unless you are a very good Psychic an dcan sense things about ppl. so dont b eso judgmental


many years of research? well show us your proof!
until then, your neighbor and my neighbor is a human.

my problem with the whole i am an alien thread was the actions taken by the people / aliens who claimed they were aliens. the moment you questioned some of them they would simply put you on their ignore list.

dont say you are an alien , and of a greater intelligence then humans if you cant even handle a heated discussion with such humans.

[edit on 17-6-2009 by elitegamer23]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:57 PM
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Do you have proof that we live in a Matrix, other than someone made a really cool movie?

Is it common for you to build your belief system from movies and video games?

We are just another form of primate. We just have certain attributes that have helped us to accel in this world.

If we were alien, wouldnt there be a good chance that we werent carbon based or that we would have something different than dna, since we evolved on another planet?

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[edit on 17-6-2009 by grapesofraft]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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Do you "sure know where you've been" are you "walking down a lonely road of yesterdays" ~ "Do you keep searching for an answer"?

I'd weigh in and suggest you're a human, just like the majority of us...

Curses - can't get the video to embed...

[edit on 17/6/0909 by jokei]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by Realtruth
Not proclaiming myself an alien, but I don't know or remember where I came from and I don't know where I am going.

I mean before birth and after death, so what does that make me while I am here?


It makes you human like the rest of us.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:13 PM
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First of all, if somebody put you on an ignore list there, I'd like to point out the very same lack of courtesy happens on these threads, for I was put on an ignore list for posting here by someone I don't know at all. I'm not going to back down from any post I've made on the other thread, or the sharing we are doing there. Many on that thread have had their own reasons and inspirations in mediatiations, dreams and life for their knowing or sensing their souls are not from this system. And that thread is about starseeds, not physical ets by the way!

I am an experiencer and have been an abductee since at least 4 or 5, and the very reason I participate in forums at all is to find others like this, and to learn as much as I can. After working up the enormous courage to share, sharing now is easier as well. I have actual memory leaks of some of these experiences, and have had them all my life, but in boxes. Now, it turns out, that my family is experiencing this as well, and my 18 year old has shared. We've all shared many sitings of soundless, crafts, one that hoverered for 5 minutes and osciallated back and forth on the spot, that actually telepathically communicated with me in the house first and freaked me out. Five of us shared that "delusion"!!!!
My sons called me out to witness several of the crafts, one that pinged my son as it soundlessly flew over, and for a black triangle that flew over our house and he felt the vibrations from just prior to this, a vibrational resonance, no sound. I didn't notice, was busy at the time.

I also had an enermous amount of emotional dishcharge occur when looking at et script, and memories came back, including the first of 3 installments of past life, and it certainly wasn't earth. So, people do share information and experiences back and forth on threads that may not appeal to those who don't have these experiences. But I will say that for many who have been traumatized to discover they are in this 3d negative reality and have trouble sleeping at night over the horrors occuring, often to children, every second, and for those who are far removed from this monetary system and the way this world is run, you should probably start to explore your life and dreams, and meditate. I recommend hemisync by the way. For, this world is probably not the kind of planet your used to. But all of us are here for a reason, and we need to shine our lights. That video back a page or two by Max Igan is very good.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:23 PM
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What is vibrational resonance and also 3d negative reality, please give me something more enlightening than "this plane of existence", if possible I'd appreciate something akin to science.

Thankyou

[edit on 17/6/0909 by jokei]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:29 PM
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Who is "It"?

Why does "It" make me human?

What I am trying to state here is that labels mean virtually nothing.

Most people do not know who they are, only what the world has told them what they are since birth and what their Ego's tell them.

Take a moment and read my thread maybe you'll understand and maybe you won't, either way it's ok.

Proud to be Human or is that my Ego talking.



Originally posted by grapesofraft

Originally posted by Realtruth
Not proclaiming myself an alien, but I don't know or remember where I came from and I don't know where I am going.

I mean before birth and after death, so what does that make me while I am here?


It makes you human like the rest of us.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:41 PM
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I agree with you those people bother the hell out of me. The main thing that bothers me about them is all talk like they are above everyone else and all think they have some like "higher knowledge" or some crap, when really they know nothing. And NOT one of these people has ever prooved that they are a "alien" and they never will, because they aren't aliens lol. They are just wackos with nothing going on in life who make up the alien thing to feel better about themselves, or they are just crazies who took to much hallucinogens (I've taken acid and mushrooms too, but some of these "new age" people go so overboard with the hallucinogens). Or they have adhd and think they are "indigo children" or something, LMAO at that one, I have adhd too and I'm no "indigo child" i'm just a normal guy lol.

Also another thing I don't like about these people is it makes the ufo/alien community look more crazy then it is. Enough people already think we are all weirdos for being into ufos/aliens, and these people who think they are aliens are just adding to that.



[edit on 17-6-2009 by Jeasaaone]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by dsm1664
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Look my friend, I'm not arguing with you.

I've seen and read so much stuff on various subjects, I understand your point. However, all I'm saying you never know, that is all.

I did find this a while back, and I believe it 100%




Hey I'm not talking down to you or anything but what about that video makes you believe it? I watched the whole thing I don't see this guy saying anything that is any different then all these others who say they are aliens.

Also if this guy is a real alien why the hell does he have to add that effect to his voice and distort the video to make it look all trippy? Seems like he just added all that for dramatic effect and to me that makes it more unbelievable, he shoulda just kept the video how it was when he originally recorded it. To me this guy is just another weird new ager who took to much hallucinogens.

And yes I do see his message and for the most part agree with it, but I don't think hes a alien (although I can't prove that, but he can't prove hes one either, if he was a real alien he should have absolutely no problem proving it, considering he is already saying hes a alien how would it hurt him to just prove it?).

And no offense to anyone who is into all this new age stuff, I just have a problem with you new age peole who try to push your views on everyone. Its just as bad as religious people who think everyone should be a part of their religion or they are going to hell.

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[edit on 17-6-2009 by Jeasaaone]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 09:10 PM
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One species out of 26,000,000...




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