Detoxification, Amazing Results

thank you so much for sharing this!

i've been doing my own sort of "Fasting" the last week, and so far i at least feel better!

i'm going to show my wife this thread, as she's fasting with me, and see what she thinks about this as well!

i'd like to ask, though, can you share with me what you'd eat in a week?? ...i've got like 2 weeks left to go on my fast, and i'd like to get some ideas on what to eat, except i still can't eat meat... can you share some recipes with me or anything? or just tell me what you'd have in a typical week, and i'd love to try it myself!

...so far i've only been eating fruits, veggies, wheat bread, juices, and some rice. check out my thread that i linked to previously in this post to see how this is all going for me!

take care, and keep it up!

...feel free to U2U me if you'd like with a week's worth of recipes!

.."kewl"..

question,,where can I purchase "odwalla" and "resveritrol"?

and too,,did the diabetes affect your eyesight, if so has your eyesight improved?

and toooo,,any other suggestions for regulating blood sugar levels?

thank you.

one more question:

how often do you meditate, and for how long??

...and basically, can you relate to anything in my thread regarding your "vibrational frequency" increasing?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

i know, it's kind of an abstract idea, but, to your best understanding of all that, do you notice a change in that regard?

Outstanding Post! Star and Flag and Thumbs up!

I commend you for sticking with it. I have tried your approach on and off a few times, and I am currently easing away from all processed foods in favor of organics, but it take a lot of discipline at first.

The idea of fasting for 12 hrs at first, and then progressing to 48 is wonderful. I have fasted for 48 before, and it was miserable, and I splurged afterwards, so the effects were not long lasting. I will attempt 12 hours tomorrow!

Thanks again for sharing!

Great post and thread, but i have a problem with one aspect. Every study I have seen says that masturbation and sex are healthy activities.

In fact regular ejaculating has been shown to help reduce chances or prostate cancer.

So please dont give up beating your stick its good for you, and there are lots of kittens and puppies to go around so dont worry about what god will do.

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Odwalla is available at most supermarkets, I get mine at slave-mart.

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I think he did this because of the metaphysical aspect. He didn't give up sex, just solo sex.
In a lot of tantric belief an orgazm drains you of energy (lol) and also drains your spirit. Building it up will make your spirit stronger.

I couldn't give it up. I went two years once and I almost died...

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True and False. Sex is always a good thing! Masturbation can take a serious psychological tole. I think the OP is speaking of "detoxing" himself spiritually, and psychologically as well as physically.

It isn't always bad, but he described an addiction, and the addition of porn. This is not very satisfying, and typically leads to stronger and stronger urges that cannot be satisfyed by yourself! It is also a huge time-waster, and draw on your energy reserves. It destroys motivation, and contributes to lower self-esteem.

So, puberty aside, and the occasional emergency pre-meeting preparation, try to avoid this habit, and save your energy, motivation, and urges for when you really need them.

You will be better served focusing that energy into another activity, or saving it for that chance encounter with an ex-girlfriend!

[edit on 17-6-2009 by getreadyalready]

I wish someone would start a thread for those of us wanting to get into this but not JUMP headfirst into not eating..

I would like to slowly get to this point, but do not know where to begin or how to start. I can not simply stop eating and drink a juice I have low blood sugar and when I don't eat often I get dizzy.

I want to get off the crap diet and lose some wait im 210 now but I should be about 175 (im 38) and stating to feel old though im not! My focus is gone as well

Can someone please start a new thread or get in touch with me on how to safely start getting on a detox diet?

one question for the op..

You said you dont musterbate. what is the reason behind this if you dont mind me asking?

I'm on my way to 22 years old and within the last year I've really been trying to cut habits that are over indulgent, I've never had problem with weight my metabolism is sky high for now, I could do 20 pullups while smoking a pack a day but I still always felt like I was way out of shape. Within the last few months I've really been drawing all my knowledge and intuition together and now it's been coming down to a monetary thing to be honest. Trying to stay free of sodium packed foods has really been the biggest challenge on a limited budget. I'm really trying to get a gym membership, because I've wanted to be able to sauna for quite some time. I still haven't completely cut out cigarette's, but a pack lasts a 7day week instead of a day and now I can run 5 miles steadily when I would've had trouble finishing a single mile. Cigarette's are definitely my priority right now, though I don't think I'll ever quit packing the after dinner bowl . I swear by whole grain cereals with skim milk, I must drink half a gallon a day; I'm a real breakfast lover but I limit my full course breakfasts to the weekends and try to avoid the pork roll and scrapple as much as possible (East Coast is a tough place to diet :/)

If anyone has any tips for some simple, healthy meals on the cheap I'm all ears (eyes?). I've been trying to cut down on my fish more due to the mercury but I'm not sure buffalo is on the budget.

You have NO idea how much I appreciate and enjoy this thread...thanks to the OP for stepping outside the box and daring to actually even bring this to the attention of all!

Proud of all the efforts here and honestly,I gather strength from knowing I "am not alone" as it's VERY hard to even chat with "non-believers" about such things.
Two years ago,after a life-threatening bout with asthma,I also "got serious" and refused to continue to take the drugs that were slowly killing me (evidence recently came to light that my "feelings" were correct,asthma drugs are POISON!!!) and went cold turkey in my diet and life.

I gave up meat,wheat,sugar and dairy...yes,all at once.In all forms.

I eat only fruits/veggies/steel-cut oats/corn,beans/and fish and have reversed not only the chronic disease BUT also maintained the "best" shape of my life!
I also took up yoga and several other forms of physical exercise and cannot begin to tell you any better thanhas already been posted here how changed my life is now!

The "cleansing" also extends to one's spirit and once you lessen your load physically,you can begin to cultivate the depth of understanding that reflects outward in everything you do.
I refuse to apologize for the fabulous quality of life I enjoy today...no,it's not easy but yes,everyone CAN do it!
I indulge in long,hot,baths vs. the dry sauna as I find it helps to "heal" all the ouchies intense workouts can cause...

"Eat to Live" is a good book that describes such as the OP has,the effects of food on chronic diseases and yes,food IS a "drug" of sorts and should be treated as such by your body!

I just celebrated a birthday and won't divulge but I will say that most believe me to be @ 20 years "younger" than I actually am.

I'm so pleased this has been brought to light!!!



[edit on 17-6-2009 by irishchic]

OK i can help you. Firstly don't perform a detox, there is no scientific basis for one. None.

Secondly look o fix one small thing at a time. Some people can do it all at once but those people are rare. People who try all at once often give up. So try something small, instead of a fat r sugar laden breakfast try a serial with some fruit. Porridge (oatmeal) is a great place to start. Throw in blueberries, strawberries, apples, bananas or other things each day so it doesn't get boring.

Accompany this small dietary change with some mild exercise. Maybe just a walk each day. If you are a busy person then incorporate exercise into your life. Take the stairs instead of the lift, do isometric exercises at your desk, dance around when tidying up instead of just walking slowly. Walk briskly wherever you go, be imaginative with it! All these little things add up.

Also a constant stream of food is better than several big meals. Letting your blood sugar drop to low causes the body to start saving calories.



An important first ste, along with the healthy breakfast is to just cut out any throwaway calories. Soft drinks being a key problem and don't just switch to sugar free ones! Research has shown that these can increase weight gain, research is continuing as to why but there are several theories. Stick to water for most of the day. Beware fruit juice, it's high in calories but you can have a couple of glasses a day without any problems.



Don't go on a detox, just eat healthy.

Prize fighters actually quit all sexual activity before bouts, 2 weeks of no activity in a male can cause testosterone levels to skyrocket. Though beware, you may find yourself behaving in uncontrollable ways if you aren't accustom to prolonged abstinence.

Not all fighters do this, although i once heard a guy in my old club say it helps him because he wants the fight over fast so he can meet his wife waiting in a nearby hotel There is also the problem of erm, well you know the "tension" can relieve itself when you're sleeping.

Sexual activity can be very god for you, raises your heart rate, burns plenty of calories, there are a multitude of positive hormonal changes associated with it as well. Those depend on your goal of course. Increase testosterone is great for when you're exercising but not so good if you are trying to reduce stress.

Great topic -- good post.

People need to realize in general that there is a "better kind of normal" as others here have alluded to. We take for granted certain aches and health problems, or that we don't run like track stars.

I also went on a fast about 12 years ago, and my wife (to be) and I convinced the rest of the family to join a detox.

The "fast" started with fresh squeezed lemons in pure water. Sweetened with Grade B Maple Syrup (Molasses or LOCAL Honey is a good alternative). Some Cheyenne pepper (helps the stomach lining and hunger) is also added. Coupled with large doses of a special blend of herbs, flax seed and some other fiber I can't remember.

I also used a horse-hair brush every night to scrub my skin (no water), in circular motions. I thought it was nonsense at first. But after day 3, my skin was itching like crazy. The body gets rid of toxins through the bladder and skin -- so when you are really detoxing, you may get rashes and annoying releases through the largest organ in your body.

We went to a lady who helped us by giving us Colonics. She was certified in the California and Sweden. The normal medical establishment tries to find any incident where someone is harmed by alternative medicine -- so you shouldn't believe all the hype but you also should take criticism's of alternatives with a grain of salt. I'm usually very skeptical of anything until I can prove it's useful. Well, the Colonics were useful, and gave us a lot of "relief."

After the fast, we were on steamed vegetables for a few days. We then followed the "Body Ecology Diet." Which looks at getting more alkaline foods in the body, and our health in general as an extension of having the right "zoology" in the gut. The modern diet is a true experiment on human life, and nothing we eat today is familiar to the bacteria in our stomach. Some people have adapted and those of us who feel better when we "clean up" obviously haven't. Different people have different systems -- so that can help explain the whole "results may vary."

As well as the fiber, we drank chlorophyll based on blue-green algae. We got to actually really like this drink as it just tasted like cleaner water with a hint of fish. It really helped remove the detox headaches and clean the blood.

My dad who had been taking testosterone, was over 65, and had about 12 other drugs for his health, was able to stop taking them and help renovate our garden for 12 hours a day.

Yeah, there were spectacular changes and my energy level went through the roof. I was doing a 2 hour aerobic workout at a hard core gym and added 10 lb weights to keep myself from shooting up too high in the air.

But it was really hard to find places to eat. The diet did not allow wheat, soy or corn, and we were to avoid artificial or processed foods, sugars and salt (any kind of preservative either -- since it's all about speeding up digestion -- reducing the effort in the stomach). I think if I were to change it, I'd be adding in eggs and nuts and beans -- the lack of protein and oils was an issue.

The other thing that might catch up with people on healthy diets is not enough fat. We are actually fat starved in this country. We need more fish oil, coconut butter, walnuts or almonds, flax seed oil -- even Avocados for some people. More fat can help you cut cravings.

Any time I ate a hamburger or a cookie -- my system would throw a fit, and the stuff tasted like garbage. But it was like that with MOST food. The problem was that it was so horrible, as my body yo-yo'd off of the perfect diet/fast to deal with the normal fast food we all eat. I was kind of sick of paying so much attention to my eating and cleansing.

The problem wasn't really the diet, it was dealing with the real world and how toxic it was. Either I was going to eternally yo-yo because there was really know way to find food on the go that was healthy, or I was going to just give up.

Now I need to lose 20, I'm tired a lot. I really miss the "me" that was a health nut. It's tough because for me -- it's always been all or nothing. And as soon as I drink coffee, I want the carbs. I get the carbs and I want to be full at lunch. If I clean up -- it's a day of headaches.

People look at health as the absence of sickness. If you've ever really pushed yourself -- like being in the boot camp at the military, or training for a triathlon -- you understand how the body can feel when it is strong, and you wonder how people can go without feeling this way. The same is true of having a "super" healthy fast and then a diet. The energy level of living with a lot less in your stomach is amazing -- regardless of which diet you go on.

But it's the transition to getting strong and healthy, that isn't very fun, and its those days when life gets in your way and you can't jog or pump weights that you feel the nose dive. You can feel an even keel and just shuffle along.

This isn't an magical CURE for everything. But most diseases we experience that fail to have "cures" are extensions of toxins and bad diet. The mucus in the gut can protect some crap you ate as a kid for decades and it can be what is causing the food allergy. Or you might get diabetes or eczema, or something else might fail. Not all diseases like cancer are CREATED by bad habits, but it certainly can lead to them if it isn't genetic.

There is no drug on the planet that beats a healthy immune system. And your body is designed for a different diet, environment, and lifestyle than the one you are currently living. Sure, the lack of clean food, and dry house killed off a lot of primitive people. If they could have had a good balance of our plentiful food and shelter, with their diet... well, there is better states of living than "average."

>> And Yoga is really healthy. Also, the act of balancing will help your body "form" itself. You don't have to force yourself through harsh exercise to get into peak fitness -- you have to get out of the way of letting your body do what it was meant to do. THAT seems to be the great secret behind superior health.

>> Hopefully, this can inspire me to do what I know I need to be doing -- I'm going to go buy some Odwalla today.

The work out and pranayama (प्राणायाम) before bed would take my sleep away...
doesn't that happen to you? or you do start already very tired of the full day?

Anyhow great post ... keep the good work and peace


[edit on 17-6-2009 by Refluir]

Just wanted to tell you that I am proud for you. A lifestyle change is a beautiful thing.

When I talk about how "tough" it can be to keep a pure diet -- I also imagine what it would be like if I lived in a neighborhood where everyone "got it."

Though I might have some sense of the spiritual -- I'm not a fan of the Mystical: "everything happens for a reason crowd." I do believe that attitude can allow you to succeed -- but it won't stop a bus if you are in its way.

I live in Georgia. There are a lot of church-going people who are spiritually dead. There are health food places scattered around. But really, my kids eat McDonalds often as not. Trying to be the person I want to be seems like an up-hill climb.

I cling to a job that is decent. But internally, I feel like I haven't really lived up to my potential.

So what I'm getting at -- is wouldn't it be great, if a whole bunch of people who were physical, mentally, and spiritually "getting it" -- but not dogmatic freaks about it either -- could just all move someplace and take it over. We could run out of town all the McDonalds and fast food joints, and invite in all the places to eat where being healthy was easy.

I suppose I also need to find a job or create a think tank, that allows me to afford this lifestyle, because every home is going to have a garden, nature preserve, butterfly ranch, and of course glass windows to the underground juice bar that gives us a great view to our natural spring fed pools.

And of course, I'll set up a sand volleyball net at my house, because my wife is a great player, and twice a year, the pro beach players will come and hang out. I already have the contacts for that.

>> Anyone want to join me in commune?

I want to call my movement; Hippy 2.0

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Thanks for sharing your experience as well. I as glad to hear about your headaches. (That didn't sound right?) I get these headaches very badly (having one now)! I have called them detox headaches as well. I get the caffeine withdrawal headaches also, but I can tell the difference. I also find it very hard to concentrate (or spell) when I am detoxing.

I have never tried any illicit drugs, don't smoke, and rarely drink alcohol. So all the toxins in my body are from a poor diet! It is amazing how much better I feel when I switch to drinking water or natural fruit juice, eating whole rice, and organic lean meats. It is just hard to maintain for extended periods of time, because my schedule is so hit and miss. I stopped drinking soft drinks 2 days ago, and I am going back to an organic diet today!

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That is all you had to say!

I'm in! I used to be a contractor, so I will help build the place for you! I would love to design and develop a totally off-grid green community!