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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:00 AM by Scooby Doo
reply to post by Republican08



I am not disagreeing or anything, but do you have certain proof that the show is fake? You said....


TAPS has been proved to be faked, in most things.


What you are trying to prove in your post is that ghosts are not real, not why "Ghost Hunters" has been proven to be a fraud.



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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:09 AM by Republican08
reply to post by Scooby Doo



I delibrately tried to google why it's fake, and was bombarded with factualities of it's fakeness! Hoax if you will.

Although I cann't prove that ghost aren't real, like god I can't prove is not real, like a teapot circling mars I can't prove is unreal, like zeus I can't prove is unreal.

It's all in the beholder, or beerholder, whichever.

There false, think about it, and truly decide in your mind, if it's real or not, there you will find the answer, "does it make sense, can it be proven real, is it logical". Questions you must ask!

Ghosts are not real but the imagination showing you things you expect to see like when litttle kids have imaginary friends, psychology is all it is.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:16 AM by Scooby Doo
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I do, in a way, agree with what you are saying. I was slowly becoming skeptical of the show. However, what makes me interested is that fact that the company "TAPS" does not set out to prove the existence of ghosts, they set out to debunk supposed "Paranormal Activity".

On a specific episode, I remember them admitting that someone from a property they were investigation had tampered with the camera, to make the sheets on a bed look as if they were moving on there own.

These are just some factors that really leaves me hanging on the fence when making a decision whether they are believable or just plain fraud.

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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:21 AM by Republican08
reply to post by Scooby Doo



Well think of them as you and a few friends.

Wouldn't it be just neat, if you added a bit of spark into the episode you were filming via a friends camcorder.

Then just didn't tell anyone, then nicely put in the apparent hoaxes, but you were real on these other parts.

Not only furthering the fears of the people who opened their home to you, but enabling them to believe ridiculous beliefs.

What, really, most recently threw me over a cliff into skepticism, was Derren Brown, look him up on youtube, or in some of my threads, and you'll begin to know a world.

Where the rabbit hole really begins, and you find new and amazing creatures.

NLP, that's the world, fkin with you left and right, and you can't even take a breather.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 10:20 AM by subject x
Originally posted by desertdreamer
So are all those measurement instruments, etc. really worth anything while searching for the paranormal?

Well, obviously cameras are essential in trying to capture evidence. I don't know how effective a thermal camera would be as I've never seen anything about someone taking a ghost's temperature, but I guess it wouldn't hurt.

The EMF detectors I see them use a lot are, to me, pretty worthless due to inteferance from other electronic equipment (i.e. house wiring, cameras, lights, pretty much anything that works off electricity).

The digital audio recorders that they use all seem to be low budget crap that are prone to all sorts of distortion/compression issues which would make unidentifiable sounds no matter what, and these could easily be thought to be EVPs. I have yet to hear any EVPs that were captured with top-quality recording gear.

Basically, I think that although equipment is needed, they need to step up their game in that area. I'd scrap the EMF detectors in 99% of the sites they visit, and get some high dollar recording gear (if they have a TV show, they have the budget).

I would also lose the guys who see ghosts and stuff absolutely everywhere they go. They hurt whatever credibility these groups might have.

For the most part, though, I think that most, if not all, of the really dramatic stuff (collars being pulled, chairs moving, etc.) is faked.

It is, after all, just about the ratings. If nothing ever happens, the show (and the paycheck) go right in the toilet.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:26 PM by desertdreamer
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Yes, it looks to me like they are using mickey mouse equipment in expensive cases. You would think that they could afford more precise equipment I guess.


reply posted on 19-6-2009 @ 08:26 AM by marg6043
reply to post by MrAndy



I am going to tell you something that I do not tell many, for obvious reasons.

When you see and apparition that apparition many times chose to show itself only to those is wants.

When I was a child and my mind was free of bias and prejudgment, I used to see people that adults could not see, but when I described them to the adults they would get very serious even scare, later on I found out that what I was seen was people that were not longer within the living.

As I got older this started to fade and go away, now only shadows I can pick from the corner of my eyes.

What changed? my overview of the understanding of ghost, I got scare and I got older.

I hope that help understand why some see it and some don't. But children are very susceptible to see more than adults do.


reply posted on 19-6-2009 @ 12:53 PM by Tiloke
There is a spot where they were caught actually faking evidence. It was on the halloween live special.
At one point Grant says he feels something pull on the back of his collar several times. On the tape you can see his collar get physically tugged down by an unseen force. Apparently Grant didn't count on youtube because within minutes of it happening it was posted on the interwebs and upon watching the footage over and over again it was evident that Grant was tugging on a string attached to his collar.

www.youtube.com...

Most people on their forums don't think Jason is in on it, but judging by his reactions, he is suspicious.

Unfortunately, this calls into question all of the material that Grant was directly involved with , and that is most of their good stuff.


1. The moving chair in the lighthouse. Grant was the last person to sit in it and the chair conveniently moves as soon as he gets up and moves off camera.Very simple to achieve with scotch tape and fishing line. Pull and the chair moves, pull harder and you pull the tape off the chair, removing the evidence.
www.youtube.com...

2. The bedroom foot uncovering video. Well, it was Grants room and Grants feet. Grant set up the camera and only Grant knows what really happened.Don't you think it is suspicious that he knew exactly where to point the camera while he "slept"? However, it is easily done with fishing line and a hook. Absurdly simple to fake. Feet fetish poltergeist starts at 2:34
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by Scooby Doo


On a specific episode, I remember them admitting that someone from a property they were investigation had tampered with the camera, to make the sheets on a bed look as if they were moving on there own.

These are just some factors that really leaves me hanging on the fence when making a decision whether they are believable or just plain fraud.

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3. There was also a spot where something paranormal appeared to happen but it was discovered that someone had tampered with the camera. On the show they say that someone at the site that worked there must have done it in an attempt to fool them. The faker had to have a fairly deep knowledge of how this particular camera worked and exactly how they set it up in order to sneak into the room out of camera view and edit the footage with only the software in the camera.....I think this was aonother spot where Grant tried to fool everyone but was caught by his own investigators.

4. The psychic reading and the strange thermals during it. Well, Grant was holding the camera and while I dont know much about thermal cameras I know they have all sorts of controls to change the color ranges and I imagine that's what it would look like if they were being cycled during recording.. Starts at 1:53
www.youtube.com...


So, we can conclude one of 2 things.
1. In multiple locations, multiple ghosts have decided to make themselves known, but only when Grant is involved.
2. Grant is fibbing.

Hmmmmmm

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