The Second American Revolution Has Begun! Then What?

Surprised this thread has not been lost by the server yet.

Good stuff Sarge. S&F.


I am waiting for HunkaHunka to come and get owned . . . again. Maybe he will learn one of these days.

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Bet he has not seen it yet... On this one I am more or less watching replies.

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The problem will be that they will hide their true intent behind some 'staged' problem that will have the sheeple crying for good old uncle sam's help. How clearly it will be seen is largly a function of how close you are to the location of the 'stage', which is also the primary factor in whether or not you get clipped and cooked. Suggestion: get out early.

Well, here is my take on the events occuring and the events to come.

I personally believe that this next revolution won't take place on the battlefield, but in the diversity of political parties. It will be the individualists who stand up to the government. I'm sure that just as I (and many others) have seen a rise in objection, so has the government, which is why I think that tougher policies are ahead. I predict that when this swine flu "vacine" is created, the government will force every kid to get vacinated. Truly, I think that this vacine will have some sort of drug in it that will do something bad to the kids, but I dont know what yet. Anyhow, Im sure that if armed conflict does break out, then the governement will be more than ready to imprison the fighters.

Anyhow, if a war broke out, would'nt it be a civil war, not a revolution? Maybe the United States should just split into different republics and the people can choose which one to live in.

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Damn right this vaccine will have some bad s* in it...

ATTENTION, Please: The WHO has declared swine flu (N1H1) pandemic. This will probably imply governmental demands for universal mass vaccinations under penalty for not complying. Flu vaccine contains squalene oil as an adjuvant.

Micropaleontologist Dr. Viera Scheibner conducted research into the adverse effects of adjuvants in vaccines and wrote: Squalene “contributed to the cascade of reactions called “ Gulf War syndrome. GIs developed arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, deadly Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, Raynaud’s phenomenon with paroxysms of lack of blood in fingers and toes in fingers and toes, Sjorgren’s syndrome with blurred vision, chronic diarrhea, night sweats and low-grade fever.”

More...

Dangerous side effects of flu vaccinations due to vaccine adjuvant squalene
Imunologist Dr. Pamela Asa first recognized autoimmune diseases showing up in GIs that mirrored those in lab animals injected with oil formulated squalene adjuvants.

According to Matsumoto, today, “Squalene adjuvants are a key ingredient in a whole new generation of vaccines intended for mass immunization around the globe. Squalene is not just a molecule found in a knee or elbow - it is found throughout the nervous system and the brain.” When injected in the body, the immune system attacks it as an enemy to be eliminated. Eating and digesting squalene isn’t a problem. But injecting it “galvanize(s) the immune system into attacking it, which can produce self-destructive cross reactions against the same molecule in the places where it occurs naturally in the body - and where it is critical to the health of the nervous system.” Once self-destruction begins, it doesn’t stop as the body keeps making the molecule that the immune system is trained to attack and destroy.

Matsumoto says “Squalene is a kind of trigger for (a) real biological weapon,” what Soviet researchers called “a biological time bomb!!” He and Dr. Pam Asa conclude that “Oil adjuvants are the most insidious chemical weapon ever devised,” including ones with squalene. So what American scientists conceived as a vaccine booster (or what’s now being developed in labs) was another ‘nano-bomb,’ instigating chronic, unpredictable and debilitating disease. Using squalene in vaccines is outlandish and criminal.

Gary Matsumoto is a New York-based award-winning investigative journalist. His 2004 book, “Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment That’s Killing Our Soldiers and Why GIs are Only the First Victims” took sharp issue with IOM results and the Pentagon’s denial of Gulf War syndrome.

Investigating the shadowy vaccination development world, he discovered US military-employed doctors and scientists conducted secret medical experiments on US citizens in violation of the Nuremberg Code and fundamental medical ethics.

According to Matsumoto, the Pentagon violated these and other standards, betrayed the troops, and the fundamental duty of military and civilian leaders to protect them. Since at least 1987, biowarfare development trumped the welfare of tens of thousands of GIs used as human guinea pigs for inoculation with experimental unlicensed anthrax vaccines containingsqualene - administered involuntarily without disclosure of its harmful effects to human health.

www.infowars.com...

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I see only two options here...
One if Nuclear exchange with N. Korea / Iran.
Two and most likely is Financial Meltdown.

Of course mix in a little Swineflu for added flavor...

Of course none of which I can see how anyone would view disarmament of the people as anything but leaving them out to dry.

At the very least if it is not blue hats we have to defend against, crime will be rampant and people will want to be able to defend themselves. Even the anti-gun people will be rethinking their philosophy if the Economy collapses and all the sudden robbery and violent crime goes through the roof.

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In the “diversity of political parties” is a sentimental ideal long dead as a possibility in our currently progressive controlled political system. Now we have but two choices, democratic full throttle into, or republican so easy slide into a statist fascism. Any viable 3rd party candidate that intended to reform the system would commit suicide as soon as it was clear that he would win; but you can dream.

There will be a Revolution in this nation because they cannot have us armed. Over and over again from the conspirators’ own mouths they have made that clear. They will never have total control until we no longer can defend ourselves.

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You are stating the means by which they will be able to provide some cover for their gun grab; riots and the break down of social order will have the liberal whiners and unprepared screaming for FEMA help. They’ll come into the region and collect fire arms even in the areas non effected with military help in the name OF restoring order. Each Region will play out differently.

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I wonder if they will let it get bad first before stepping in to be the "savior," or just say "this is how it is going to be."

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Oh no, they'll do just what they did in Katrina; withhold aid and allow things to get REAL bad. DON'T get caught around cities.

The big cities and suburbs will be the first to get disarmmed, and they'll use the hr 875 bill to starve out the people in the country and other rural areas. When the civil unrest becomes what they expected and at what level, they'll step in and remove the rest of our guns by force!

Woe be unto us if they do get those microchips into us before all this breaks loose also, for nowhere will be safe. You'll be tracked down anywhere you try to hide. Randy Weaver had the best idea, and the feds knew it also. That's why he was run off of ruby ridge idaho.

The gov't was afraid that the rest of america would wake up and head for the hills too, thus creating a new nation of people to try and deal with. Our only hope for mere survival is to get the randy weaver syndrome and get our families together and buy mountain land and build on it and stay there.

Society has nothing left for any of us as long as the folks behind the nwo are running things.

I may be wrong,but I believe that there will be a flurry of things happening all at once. High gas prices, food shortages caused by crop short falls and transportation problems. Total monetary collapse followed by mysterious illness and many incidents of revolt supression. Mass confusion will be a main tool toward their end game.
They will come for the weapons,you can rely on it! It would have to be after major mayhem has demoralized most of the masses.
Sarge the writing IS on the wall for those with the guts to see it. I pray for those that are and will be in denial,when it all comes down.

reply to post by Wilt456


A close asessment. Especially the "children vaccinated for swine flu" part. A thread on the plans for that very thing is here - Kathleen Sebellious has already made the announcement, which could very well turn out to be the spark that ignites the war. I'll tell you like I've already said, if armed conflict breaks out, this is one fighter they ain't going to imprison. I have no illusions as to their tender mercies upon their own. A bomb-chucking terrorist at Gitmo has a better chance than us of coming out unscathed, as indeed several already have.

No imprisonment, just Tarleton's Quarter.

A civil war involves one segment of the population against another. A revolution involves getting the government straight by the citizenry, so I'd have to vote for that label. In the end, dead is dead, and it won't really matter what kind of war killed 'em to large bunches of people.

As far as splitting into separate republics goes, I've seen other predictions of the Balkanization of America, but I don't think it will happen, however good an idea it may be, simply because the Feds will not allow such a breakup, and will eventually tick off enough people in all sections of the country, with their crackdowns, that they pull together, to clean the federal clock.

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You can probably expect another, far more severe, gun grab right before, or just at the beginning, of the economic collapse, preparatory to, or immediately resulting from, them jerking the props out from under the economy.

They will probably try for a perfect storm of crises that Rham-bo won't want to waste. Roundups will start around the same time. The objective will be to get all the "dangerous" folks out of circulation, and then intensify the crisis so that the rest beg for government help.

Once the govt "helps" you, they hold your title, but remember, it's "for the children".

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For the children my ass . . . .

I hate that saying, "for the children." All it is is a knee-jerk sympathy card. ANytime I see that, it makes me think twice lol

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No that was a quote I lifted from the oathkeepers blogspot. I'm still hoping against hope that I'll turn on the tv and hear breaking news of the marines locking up congress and the prez for treason. What is constitutional about these czars huh? When will the military see the light? I almost, actually I do believe that the fed is just seeing how far they can go,this is sickening to me.
I want my country back,down with fascism/socialism.

Originally posted by xxpigxx
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For the children my ass . . . .

I hate that saying, "for the children." All it is is a knee-jerk sympathy card. ANytime I see that, it makes me think twice lol

Yeah, I threw that in on purpose, as it always strikes me as the height of ridiculousness when it's thrown in as an excuse by the opposition. If they were so concerned "for the children", would they allow their slaughter in droves at abortion clinics for frivolous purposes? Would they not be up in arms over the current drive to saddle the "children" (and grand children, ad infinitum) with overwhelming debt they'll never get out of? Would they REALLY be seriously talking about using OUR kids as guinea pigs for an untested Swine Flu vaccine? There are countless examples of their "concern" for the "children". I watch what they do, not listen to what they say.

I know which factions REALLY support "the children".



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Originally posted by nickoli
reply to post by nenothtu

 

No that was a quote I lifted from the oathkeepers blogspot. I'm still hoping against hope that I'll turn on the tv and hear breaking news of the marines locking up congress and the prez for treason. What is constitutional about these czars huh? When will the military see the light? I almost, actually I do believe that the fed is just seeing how far they can go,this is sickening to me.
I want my country back,down with fascism/socialism.

I believe the military already DOES see the light, based on my conversations with various members. I think they're just waiting for everyone ELSE to see the light before acting, so that their base of support for actions is stable.

I hoped reason would prevail in DC before such events transpired, but it ain't gonna. The crew we have at the helm currently have miscalculated their opposition, and THINK this agenda will push through unopposed. They have become "Emboldened", and it's a fatal miscalculation.

They mistake inaction for acquiescence, rather than a preparatory phase.

When it hits the fan, we ain't gonna have to worry about the greater majority of OUR military.

You may have noticed how the current DC cabal has started trying to pull the military's teeth, and shuffle even more of them overseas, out of the country, instead of bringing them home as promised.

Think they might not be ENTIRELY asleep at the wheel?

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Can you believe the arrogance of these "elected officals" we have. They must actually believe that they will escape total upheavel unscathed. Everyone that I know has prepared for the comming blight. I admit I live in quite a rural area,and country folk are usually self reliant to begin with. But this preparedness is way above the norm.

At least one good thing will come out of this. There will be newly re-born patriots.A hardned people with little appreciation for the old style political retoric. So when the elite that have been hidden during the malay,do come out to "lead"us into the new day. They will find(to their dismay) that not only are they not needed,they are considered less than acceptable human beings,and made outcasts.
The elite have forgotton that the structure of the economy and technology rests in the capable hands of the people who actually build and maintain it.
We will be a stronger nation when all is said and done. As you would trim the dead wood from a tree to make it stronger,trimming the dead wood from the government will strengthen it also.

Replace fear with resolve,and over come!

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Roger that, Daddyroo45! You pegged it. After the initial onslaughts by TPTB, I'm reasonably sure a lot of folks who constantly harp about the "undefeatable technology" that they think will be brought to bear on folks will be shocked and dismayed at whose hands that technology is found in. The folks at the top of the heap don't have a clue what to do with it when it breaks. The folks who DO know what to do will "own" it by default.

With that said, in the initial phases, I think TPTB will have a monopoly on it, and the rest of us just have to figure out how to defeat it until it switches hands. For example, all of the complex systems that go into running and maintaining a city will be brought to bear. For the most part, city dwellers think that water comes from a tap, electricity comes from a wall socket, and food comes from a grocery store. They just hit a knob, and it's THERE, so they never need to think much about the ultimate source. When THAT stuff gets used as a weapon against city dwellers, it ain't gonna be a pretty sight. That's one of the reasons I say to get out of the cities, they're too dependent.

Yeah, it looks like a culling of sorts and a streamlining is coming.

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